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Old March 26th, 2012, 03:59 PM   #1: [Thread] [Post]
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The Playstation Brand Needs to Die

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...If my coworkers are any indication, this is the audience that Sony is missing out on. They are fairly new to gaming (in fact, they probably used to make fun of it), they primarily play shooters, and they have a seemingly undying support for the Xbox. Sony hasn't connected with these people. Even more so, the company is a joke to them. How can they make the name PlayStation synonymous with quality gaming experiences in the minds of the millions of players that only started taking the hobby seriously within the last generation or two?

They can't. The PlayStation brand needs to die.
http://bitmob.com/articles/the-plays...d-needs-to-die

This guy raises some good points. No one cares about the Playstation name anymore and I think a total rebranding could really help them next go around.
 
 

 
Old March 26th, 2012, 06:49 PM   #2: [Thread] [Post]
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No one cares about the Playstation name anymore
I care...

There are a lot of a**holes in my school that are like the co-workers from the article. Average conversations are as follows:

Me: Oh, you play CoD too? What system are you on?
Other: 360
Me: Okay, well I'm on PS3...So, it looks like I can't add you.
Other: LoLwUt?! PS3s are worthless. 360 is much better.
Me: I can respect that opinion. Why do you like 360 over PS3?
Other: BECAUSE 360 IS BETTER! DUHH!
Me: Okay then, have fun in you biased cesspool of a world.

I am not saying all Xbox gamers are like that, but most of the people I talk to have no clue on why they bought a 360 and not a PS3. I always tell people that I bought a PS3 because I like the roster of exclusives for it when compared to 360. All I want is for someone to give me a logical reason on why they bought a 360 (directing that at mindless idiots, not GWers).

So, what's the point to my condensed rant? I am tired of all these new gamers that discovered gaming from CoD trying to tell me that they are "hardcore" gamers and that I should be playing 360 (the best system ever...I guess). I am also tired of f*ck faces bashing the PS3 because they don't have it and they have never used one. How in the world are you supposed to hate something that you have never used, and compare it to something "better" when it's all opinion?

To sum up all of my scattered thoughts that don't make much sense: The PlayStation brand does not need to go away; biased a**holes need to learn a thing or two about gaming. Both systems are good, and they both have their pros and cons. Get over it.

For the record, I hope the next system is not called PlayStation 4. I still think that PlayStation will play the role of the brand name, but I don't think it will be PS4.
 
 

 
Old March 26th, 2012, 07:04 PM   #3: [Thread] [Post]
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I care...

There are a lot of a**holes in my school that are like the co-workers from the article. Average conversations are as follows:

Me: Oh, you play CoD too? What system are you on?
Other: 360
Me: Okay, well I'm on PS3...So, it looks like I can't add you.
Other: LoLwUt?! PS3s are worthless. 360 is much better.
Me: I can respect that opinion. Why do you like 360 over PS3?
Other: BECAUSE 360 IS BETTER! DUHH!
Me: Okay then, have fun in you biased cesspool of a world.
This means they bought the 360 because it was cheaper. Which is a good reason but most people won't come out and say it for whatever reason, but the fact that it has always been priced lower than the PS3 means it is more accessible to more people.

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This guy raises some good points. No one cares about the Playstation name anymore and I think a total rebranding could really help them next go around.
I don't think they would ever do that.. Sony still tries to call **** "Walkman" for cryin out loud. Plus they just launched the PS Vita so abandoning now seems unlikely.

Plus it's a really stupid idea to abandon all their name recognition because there are idiots out there.

There will always be idiots and it's important to not base your decisions on them. Think about it.. For example, i drive a Dodge Ram with a V8 HEMI and I've had guys driving Ford's with a V6 tell me that it is a piece of **** because it's a Dodge. I used to own a GMC Sierra and had people driving Chevys say the same thing to me.

There is no reasoning with these special types of *******s, they should just be ignored.

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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:00 PM   #4: [Thread] [Post]
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Anyone who plays Xbox because it's an 'Xbox' isn't going to start playing something else just because it's not called 'Playstation' anymore.

Changing a widely recognized brand on an off-the-wall theory like this would be hilarious.
 
 

 
Old March 26th, 2012, 09:22 PM   #5: [Thread] [Post]
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Why does the brand need to die to appease some slack-jawed hypocrites who will stop "gaming" the minute the next big fad drops?

One of the reasons I respect the PS name so much is because there's practically a 0% chance of someone buying it solely to play 'GEARS, BRAH!'
 

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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:50 PM   #7: [Thread] [Post]
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Me: Oh, you play CoD too? What system are you on?
Other: 360
Me: Okay, well I'm on PS3...So, it looks like I can't add you.
Other: LoLwUt?! PS3s are worthless. 360 is much better.
Me: I can respect that opinion. Why do you like 360 over PS3?
Other: BECAUSE 360 IS BETTER! DUHH!
Me: Okay then, have fun in you biased cesspool of a world.

I am not saying all Xbox gamers are like that, but most of the people I talk to have no clue on why they bought a 360 and not a PS3. I always tell people that I bought a PS3 because I like the roster of exclusives for it when compared to 360. All I want is for someone to give me a logical reason on why they bought a 360 (directing that at mindless idiots, not GWers).
I get this a lot too, I mean I didn't necessarily look at my PS3 as being superior it was just what I bought (or more correctly my parents bought) when I wanted to get a console(Also I got it cheaper via a redemption with a Sony TV that my dad was already buying), also now I have both anyway so to say that a PS3 is crap because it isn't an xBox just makes me look stupid. So if someone says to me they bought an xBox because they actually had a reason, I will accept that because at least they're not a mindless idiot who says "because it's an xBox".

My reason for getting an xBox was because so many of my friends had one I never got to play online with them, so I went halfies in an xBox with my brother in order to play online with mates.

 
Old March 27th, 2012, 03:30 PM   #8: [Thread] [Post]
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Really, I think that most people that have a severe dislike of any particular console fail to have any real experience with that console. Hardware issues aside, I see both consoles as more or less equal.

I think killing off the "PlayStation" brand would be a terrible mistake on sony's part. There is a ridiculous amount of brand recognition when it comes to PlayStation. Although, I can understand why they might consider rebranding due to the widely publicized security issues with the PlayStation Network last year.

EDIT: By equal, I mean I've had fun on both systems. I prefer the 360 controller, but that doesn't mean I won't occasionally pick up titles for my PS3. That in no way equals to PS3 being less fun to play than 360.

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I don't think they would ever do that.. Sony still tries to call **** "Walkman" for cryin out loud. Plus they just launched the PS Vita so abandoning now seems unlikely.
Well obviously they won't change it, I don't think anyones expecting that.

I think what they're trying to get it at is that with more people than ever playing video games this generation they're saying the Playstation brand no longer has as much weight this gen. The majority of people playing these days don't care about reviews or magazine articles or website forums. They're average consumers. So with the Playstation brand having a less than popular reputation amongst average people I don't see how it would hurt to change the name.

If you're "hardcore" enough about video games its not going to matter what they call it, you'll still buy it. But Sony or Nintendo and Microsoft for that matter aren't trying to get your dollars, they already have them. They're going after Joe Schmoe's money.

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Brand awareness is everything. People who didn't buy a PS3 didn't buy it because of the price, and people who did buy it in the first 3 years are people who bought it because it was 'playstation'.
They don't need to change their name, they need to sell their machines cheaper and they need to make it worth playing early in its life-cycle.
 
 

 
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They don't need to change their name, they need to sell their machines cheaper and they need to make it worth playing early in its life-cycle.
I think these are the two most important issues here. If anything, this generation became the era in which 'Playstation' became synonymous with 'high-end gaming'; Sony used their brand as a way to push Blu-ray out the door, while simultaneously unleashing a slew of other hardware perks that made the PS3 'better' than the competition, in return for a much higher price than the other guys.

With this approach, they are ostracizing much of the marketplace right from the start. If the Playstation brand wants any chance in retaking the 'everyman' image of video games, they can't have their console retail for $600 from the start.

And make the damn thing have some playable software within the first 3 years of it being available.
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I think these are the two most important issues here. If anything, this generation became the era in which 'Playstation' became synonymous with 'high-end gaming'; Sony used their brand as a way to push Blu-ray out the door, while simultaneously unleashing a slew of other hardware perks that made the PS3 'better' than the competition, in return for a much higher price than the other guys.
I think this is what they wanted and expected to happen but they failed miserably at it.
 
 

 
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1. I think these are the two most important issues here. If anything, this generation became the era in which 'Playstation' became synonymous with 'high-end gaming'

2. they can't have their console retail for $600 from the start.

3. And make the damn thing have some playable software within the first 3 years of it being available.
1. I think they tried very hard to bring PC gamers over to the console realm. When there was version of linux on PS3, that was very, very cool in my opinion. The only problem is that over time they started essentially stripping features (like updates that made linux not run) and it was an unfortunate backwards step.

2. No. There is hardly any reason a "dedicated entertainment system" or video game console for that matter should cost that much at this time. You can get a PC that runs most new games (albeit not at high settings) for less than 600$. Hell, the dell I purchased two years ago still runs anything I want it to and that was only a 550$ PC (450 + 100 for a video card).

3. Absolutely. No one is going to buy a new console for netflix or blu-ray anymore. Hell, you can get a blu-ray player with netflix (among other things) for less than 100$. I think any company that releases a new console for anything more than 400$ is going to have a difficult time selling it.
 
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