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Old October 27th, 2007, 09:14 PM   #1: [T] [P]
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hail

whats a good hail support team

im using abmasnow and walrein so far i cant think what else would be a good fit i though t-tar because it wont be affected then i can add forry or somthing to toxic spike hm now i think about it i like that

what would be a good finish to that team
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Old October 27th, 2007, 10:03 PM   #2: [T] [P]
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Yes! Hail-based teams!

Abomasnow @ Choice Band/Leftovers
252 Atk/252 Spd/6 Hp

-Ice Shard/Avalanche
-Wood Hammer/Seed Bomb
-Earthquake
-Brick Break

Lapras @ Leftovers
252 Hp or Def/252 Sp. Def/6 Def or Hp

-Surf
-Ice Beam/Blizzard
-Sing
-Psychic/Thunderbolt

Regice @ Leftovers
252 Sp. Def/252 Def or Hp/6 Hp or Def

-Ice Beam/Blizzard
-Focus Blast/Curse/Thunder Wave
-Thunderbolt
-Amnesia

Weavile @ Focus Sash/Expert Belt
252 Atk/252 Spd/6 Hp

-Night Slash
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break
-Swords Dance/Aerial Ace

Glaceon @ Choice Specs/Scarf
252 Sp. Atk/252 Spd/6 Hp

-Ice Beam/Blizzard
-Shadow Ball
-Water Pulse
-Ice Shard

Froslass @ Leftovers
252 Sp. Atk/252 Spd/6 Hp

-Ice Beam/Blizzard
-Shadow Ball
-Spikes
-Thunder Wave

I'm not too familiar with Ice teams, but I think I did okay. Tell me what you think.

 
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no i dont want a full ice team just a team that utalize hail
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Well, they do utilize Hail in 1 way. Blizzard gets 100% Accuracy in Hail.

 
Old October 27th, 2007, 10:11 PM   #5: [T] [P]
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problem is i want to use this team and if i fight any one with a fire attack on there team........
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You have Lapras there, you know. No Pokemon are immune to Hail except Ice Types.

 
Old October 27th, 2007, 10:24 PM   #7: [T] [P]
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Walrein will laugh at fire with the right setup.

Seriously, I got my ass kicked by one once. My opponent then had the gall to pull the "WALLrein" pun out. Boy, was that a low point in my battling career.

Tyranitar in a hail team is counterproductive. Why bother setting up the hail when you've got a pokemon that'll make it go away anyway?

Froslass will counter the possibility of your opponent using a Fighting-type attack to SE the ice types. Water/Ice hybrids will do the same against Fire types. Steel type attacks aren't common so that's not much of an issue.

If you do use a non-Ice type such as Forretress (though putting it into a fire-weak team is probably not a great idea), Leftovers would help nullify the hail damage. Breloom + Toxic Orb + Poison Heal would give Breloom the equivalent of Leftovers without Hail damage, though it'll have to be careful and not show up against a pokemon that has an Ice attack. Lastly, Clefable + Magic Guard also nullifies Hail damage (among other things), so take that into consideration as well, though Clefable shares the Fighting-type weakness as most other ice types.
 
 

 
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Haphazard, since it's a Hail team, I'd think you'd want to use Hail in at least a couple of those movesets. The only thing on your team that will make it hail is Abomasnow's ability, and that won't cut it on a team that's based around that weather condition.
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If you wanted to make a Hail team, I'd probably try to have 3 Ice types and 3 Pokemon to counter your weaknesses. I'd also try to think of a good way to take out Tyranitar and Hippowdon, since those will be your biggest enemies.
 

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what would be another good ice type abmassnow, walrein, and.......glacion? weavile?
also can u name some people who would cover my weaknesses hera for ttar?
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Packing Focus Punch on Abomasnow and Brick break on Weavile seems like a good start for countering Ttar. You'll also want a Rock, Fighting, and/or Fire resist. Perhaps Heatran, Dusknoir, and Heracross?
 

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A flying type attack or two will help to counter Heracross. Makes Aerial Ace on Weavile definitely worth consideration. And yes, fighting type attacks to handle the Ttar.
 
 

 
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