Barack Obama is President Elect Split [11.08.08]

[Mike!]

It's real. It's damn real.

I'm glad to say that I've been an Obama supporter from the start. I didn't bandwagon on this ride. :)

[Legendaryking6]

What a moment... What a great moment. Regardless of your political ideology, I have to believe you recognize the historical relevance and the importance of this event, and we are lucky to have witnessed this in our lifetime.

I thought so. I always knew his policies weren't the reason you were voting for him.

[Zohaib]

Aww man, let go of all the hate and just accept it. Democracy has worked.

[Dean]

I'm sorry, nothing you can say can take this away from us, LK.

I also edited the title. The Associated Press is reporting that John McCain conceded his quest for presidency.

What a moment...

[Mike!]

I thought so. I always knew his policies weren't the reason you were voting for him.

No one likes a wet blanket or a sore loser.

History has been made today. Try and enjoy it.

[Legendaryking6]

Aww man, let go of all the hate and just accept it. Democracy has worked failed doomed us all to eternal suffering in the bowels of hell.

Fixed.

Also:

I'm sorry, nothing you can say can take this away from us, LK.

I also edited the title. The Associated Press is reporting that John McCain conceded his quest for presidency.

What a moment...

You being so overly happy about putting a black man into office is proof in itself that you didn't give a sh*t about what he stood for and were only voting for him to put a black guy in the oval office. People like you sicken me to no end.

[Dean]

If you're going to continue to troll me and the Obama supporters, I'm going to warn you. I tried to treat everybody who posted here with respect, and the fact that you feel the need to attempt to drag us down with you during this moment of triumph is disappointing. Why don't you go to sleep or something?

Anyway, John McCain just congratulated Barack Obama, and I hope he can begin a healing process to end this divisiveness.

[The JoZ]

Then how about this LK?

I voted for Obama because I like his policies. I like the idea of him taking us forward.

McCain's policies would have been disasterous for the US and the world. I expect that WWIII, nay, Armageddon itself would have been started on his watch.

Obama being black means nothing to me. He's the best man for the job, and he just won.

After screwing up 2004, we got it right this time.

[Tiki]

Just ignore that other thread up there....uh...hehe....still not used to the fact that this forum is here....

All I have to say is that this is the best thing that could possibly happen, given the choices. So many things are going to be different now....even if it doesn't become apparent for a long time.

[Ryan!]

This is historic, I'll admit. It shows we've come a long way in terms of race relations in this country.

That said, I don't really care as much about that. I'm glad he won because we can now enter a new era of hope instead of fear.

[Dean]

I can't wait until we can end the War in Iraq and capture Bin Laden; until we can fix the economy and reward the working class; until we can end this divisiveness and restore prosperity and unity; until we can take America to newer and greater heights than ever before.

[:.FireStorm.:]

I thought this was an amazing election, and McCain made a very respectful speech (Which is still going on at the current moment). =)

To Change! :D *Cheers* lolz

[Tom Hagen]

I am very proud to of lived through this historic event. A black man is now elected president when only ten years ago this would of been though impossible.

And before a troll hits me, no, i did not vote. Im 1 month to young (December 13th....) I would have voted for him, not because of his race, but because his policies.

And I have respect for John McCain. He has just made a speach congradulating Obama, sharing his condolences for his grandmother and just a very good speach. He is a man worthy of respect.

On the other hand, the crowd are just pathetic. Booing and QQing about what they cant change. lol.

[Legendaryking6]

If you're going to continue to troll me and the Obama supporters, I'm going to warn you. I tried to treat everybody who posted here with respect, and the fact that you feel the need to attempt to drag us down with you during this moment of triumph is disappointing. Why don't you go to sleep or something?

Anyway, John McCain just congratulated Barack Obama, and I hope he can begin a healing process to end this divisiveness.

I'm not trying to troll you or anyone else. I'm only pointing out the fact that you shouldn't care one way or the other that it's the 1st black president of the U.S. So what? Focus on what he's going to do, not his race.

[Captain Haddock]

Then how about this LK?

I voted for Obama because I like his policies. I like the idea of him taking us forward.

McCain's policies would have been disasterous for the US and the world. I expect that WWIII, nay, Armageddon itself would have been started on his watch.

Obama being black means nothing to me. He's the best man for the job, and he just won.

After screwing up 2004, we got it right this time.

Not really, actually, chances are even obama could led us to an armageddon.

Meh, congrats to him i suppose.

yaaay for higher taxes...?

[Dean]

I'm fairly sure more people voted for this election, both based on number of people and the percentage of the electorate, than any in history. By my best estimations, somewhere around 135 million people voted.

yaaay for higher taxes...?

I didn't realize you made more than $250,000 a year, XZ...

[Mike!]

He's taking it well and with grace but you can see he certainly thought this speech out. But, I have more respect for him now after hearing his speech.

The race is over and I look forward to the future.

yaaay for higher taxes...?
How on earth do you expect to improve this country without spending money?

[Dean]

It will take a while before people can unify before the President, just like it took a while for the Democratic party to unify after the heated Primary between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

And LK, I don't intend on taking any advice from you regarding what I should and should not care about. :)

[Shadow.]

McCain congratulating him was really good. Made McCain look pretty good. All the damn supporters were booing. Really, thats just horrible.

[Operative #19]

I'm not trying to troll you or anyone else. I'm only pointing out the fact that you shouldn't care one way or the other that it's the 1st black president of the U.S. So what? Focus on what he's going to do, not his race.

You're a really ignorant dude. It's not why we voted for him or anything like that, the fact is this is a historic event for African Americans and America as a whole. There's no denying that. I'm going to do my best to not earn a warning, but your view points truly do fail. McCain is giving a very classy speech and conceding this election, and it's people, like you, who can't let things go. These kinds of view points do not belong here.

[:.FireStorm.:]

On the other hand, the crowd are just pathetic. Booing and QQing about what they cant change. lol.

That was hilarious, no offense but it was funny to hear what some of the people were yelling.

[Dean]

Operative, the same thing goes for you. I don't want people trolling the Nader supporters, the McCain supporters, any supporters, anybody... Republican or Democrat... just chill.

My natural reaction would have been to mention the historic aspect of the campaign. It would have been one of my first reactions if Palin were to become Vice President as well. If you feel it's insignificant, fine, but there is no need for anybody to say "you sicken me" or "you are ignorant" or result to any trolling or flaming.

Just post about the election. Don't get involved in some internet argument. Nobody wins.

[Mike!]

It's like running in the Special Olympics even if you win.. You're still retarded.

[:.FireStorm.:]

Truely, I think McCain would have had a better shot then what he did if he didn't work with Palin. But thats just me speaking.

[Legendaryking6]

You're a really ignorant dude. It's not why we voted for him or anything like that, the fact is this is a historic event for African Americans and America as a whole. There's no denying that. I'm going to do my best to not earn a warning, but your view points truly do fail. McCain is giving a very classy speech and conceding this election, and it's people, like you, who can't let things go. These kinds of view points do not belong here.

Let me point something out yet again:

So he's the 1st black president- so what? If you really and truly didn't care about race, you wouldn't be focusing on Obama's race to begin with. It was bound to happen sooner or later. The fact that you're harping about his race so much in that one post just goes to show it's not his policies you care about.

I don't care about his race. I care about his policies. And honestly, they scare the sh*t outta me.

[Tom Hagen]

Can I say the joke about the intrenet Dean!! Its kinda mean!

lol, jk.

It was kind of funny that the people were booing? I didnt think so at all. Their main man McCain was congradulating his opponent, which if I remember right, neither of Bushes opponents did. That was a very very respectful thing to do.

[storm4]

I don't mind telling you that I voted for John McCain today. With that being said, what an historic moment for our country. Who wasn't moved to see that announcement and realize that we have come to a point in our country where we see another all come down. I congratulate Dean and all of those who have supported Obama. I am ready to give him a chance, and I really do hope that he lives up to his hype.
Still, today is about history, and today all Americans should be proud. I know that I am.

[Tom Hagen]

Let me point something out yet again:

So he's the 1st black president- so what? If you really and truly didn't care about race, you wouldn't be focusing on Obama's race to begin with. It was bound to happen sooner or later. The fact that you're harping about his race so much in that one post just goes to show it's not his policies you care about.

I don't care about his race. I care about his policies. And honestly, they scare the sh*t outta me.

The history books will point this out as well. Its just one of those things, just like JFK. They were like, woah, hes Catholic. That didnt mean they voted for him or against him because of that. But he will be remembered as the first black man to be president.

[Dean]

I don't mind telling you that I voted for John McCain today. With that being said, what an historic moment for our country. Who wasn't moved to see that announcement and realize that we have come to a point in our country where we see another all come down. I congratulate Dean and all of those who have supported Obama. I am ready to give him a chance, and I really do hope that he lives up to his hype.
Still, today is about history, and today all Americans should be proud. I know that I am.

I wish I could good rep you.

So he's the 1st black president- so what? If you really and truly didn't care about race, you wouldn't be focusing on Obama's race to begin with. It was bound to happen sooner or later. The fact that you're harping about his race so much in that one post just goes to show it's not his policies you care about.

I don't care about his race. I care about his policies. And honestly, they scare the sh*t outta me.

Yes, you've made that clear by calling him everything from a Socialist to a "Stupid f*ck."

I hope Obama delivers on these campaign promises for me:

Get me back on my parents' health insurance or get me affordable health insurance of my own
Help create new jobs by getting the economy back on track and giving incentives to businesses that create jobs in the United States instead of shipping them overseas
Get the United States off its addiction on foreign oil and change to clean energy, creating new jobs
Responsibly end the War in Iraq and capture Osama Bin Laden and defeat Al-Qaeda

There are more, and those aren't in order of importance, but I'm still astonished that people are upset with his policies when they are advocated by so many fellow world leaders... The Iraq Policy is what the Iraqis want. The approach to clean energy is a more responsible way of doing what John McCain also wanted, which is create new jobs and get us off our dependence of foreign oil - Obama just doesn't support drilling off shore unless it's part of a larger comprehensive energy plan and only wants clean coal technology and safe nuclear power. And I don't think anybody can deny that we need to get Bin Laden and defeat Al-Qaeda instead of underfunding troops in Afghanistan... and we need to add more troops to Afghanistan to get the job done, maybe not combat troops, but feet on the ground to talk to the Pashtun people and defeat Al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

[Legendaryking6]

Yes, you've made that clear by calling him everything from a Socialist to a "Stupid f*ck."

When did I call him a stupid f*ck? All I remember is calling his spread the wealth policy socialist, because that's part of what socialism is.

[Operative #19]

Let me point something out yet again:

So he's the 1st black president- so what? If you really and truly didn't care about race, you wouldn't be focusing on Obama's race to begin with. It was bound to happen sooner or later. The fact that you're harping about his race so much in that one post just goes to show it's not his policies you care about.

I don't care about his race. I care about his policies. And honestly, they scare the sh*t outta me.

What do you know about his policies? It's not his race that make us vote for him, it is his policies, his party, his views. He will be a great asset in rebuilding the economy, in restoring America's view in the eyes of the world, in protecting the nation. What can you say about his policies that "scare" you? You're implying the only reason we went for him is because of his race, simply because you fail to realize the historical significance of his nomination, a Black man's nomination as President. Through everything that has happened in American history, no matter how much you try to take away from it, this is a moment for the ages. When you're reaping the benefits of Barack Obama as President of the United States, I don't expect to hear one bit of complaining from you.

[The Eye in the Sky!]

Well said, storm. It's is important that a black man was elected president to show how people can come together regardless of race, which is what Obama had been saying from the start... and really any intelligent person should think: It's better to have someone with answers than someone without. Obama had the answers and McCain did not, which is why he was elected.

Regardless of whether or not his race was a factor, there is no denying that this is a huge moment.

I'm happy. I've never been too up about politics but I am ecstatic right now. Solar/wind/renewable energies go go gobama!

[Dean]

When did I call him a stupid f*ck? All I remember is calling his spread the wealth policy socialist, because that's part of what socialism is.

I believe it was the night he preempted the World Series by 10 minutes. Maybe it wasn't stupid f*ck, but I definitely recall some particularly vulgar language used about him.

EDIT:

Called him a motherf*cker (http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7952089)

Called him a Socialist (http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7952213)

[Ants!]

Now all there is to wait on is the senate and congress seats. Congrats to Obama and his supporters, I only hope he proves the misgivings I've had for him before to be unfounded and he really does work together with the other party.

LK: Just let it go. There's nothing you can do about it, and it'll make you feel better. Besides, you're young and you will see other elections.

And I understand the disgust at the crowds behavior, but let them vent. They had their hearts in this as much as any of you, and it's still raw for them. Can you honestly say Obama supporters would not have been just as angry had their man lost? Just give them time, some people just need to live with it for a little while before they come around. It's going to take understanding on both sides to drop the divide.

[Ralph Nader]

I voted for nader. Hes actually seriously the only person who i believe has the dedication to change the country. I know it will never happen but its always nice to have false hope.

But congratulations to all obama supporters.

[Legendaryking6]

Damn nimrodders.

When you're reaping the benefits of Barack Obama as President of the United States, I don't expect to hear one bit of complaining from you.

And when he proceeds to run this country into the ground like he inevitably will, I don't expect to hear any from you, either.

[smashbro14]

I'm a hardcore republican, and I'm obviously very disappointed with this outcome, but I'm glad that I got to experience this election, especially since it was the first one that I could vote in. I'll saving my stub, or whatever it's called. But this whole thing still upsets me. I'm tired of the media talking about how great it is to have an African American in office. It's sad that race was made into an issue in an election of this magnitude. Congrats to Obama... I'm hoping for the best.

[storm4]

When did the booing take place? I hear more cheering than anything. I haven't heard about the booing except here.

[Dean]

Hey guys... don't forget... George W. Bush is still President of the United States for another two and a half months...

EDIT: During the McCain concession speech, his supporters booed the mention of Obama's name a couple times - not a big deal at all. I heard worse when Hillary had to drop out.

[Mike!]

Let it go. McCain lost. Try and take your lose like a man.

Big props to you storm. You give me hope.

[Legendaryking6]

Whatever. F*ck this, I'm going to Canada.

[:.FireStorm.:]

Hey guys... don't forget... George W. Bush is still President of the United States for another two and a half months...

lol I totally forgot that part >.< I wonder what hes thinking right now...

Anywho, yeah, during the Speech of Mccain, people were booing and he was like SILENCE! well no but it would have been funny to....nevermind. lol

[Operative #19]

Whatever. F*ck this, I'm going to Canada.

AHAHAHAHA! Isn't Canada a more leftist country then the U.S.? Have fun!

[Dean]

I'm pissed that my county went to McCain. Oh well... at least my state didn't.

So anyway, this is the first time - I believe - that the Democrats will have complete control over the House, a big majority in the Senate, and the Presidency.

I'm sure Obama WILL reach across the aisle, for the record. When he served on the Harvard Law Review, he appointed several conservatives to high positions.

Given McCain's immediate concession of his bid for Presidency, and how graceful he was, and his expertise and experience on a whole host of issues, mostly foreign policy related, I would not be surprised if either McCain or Colin Powell, or maybe both, were to be given spots on an Obama cabinet.

I also hope Bill Richardson gets appointed to a position of power, but from what I've seen, he legitimately wants to stay as Governor of New Mexico and really likes his position.

Whatever. F*ck this, I'm going to Canada.

Enjoy your socialized healthcare...

And for those who are disappointed, I'm sure Sarah Palin will run for President in 2012, so you'll have another opportunity.

[Mike!]

Whatever. F*ck this, I'm going to Canada.

That shows you how little you know. Canada has a socialized economy.

Link (http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/02/24/75-threatening-to-move-to-canada/)

[:.FireStorm.:]

Gosh, 338-155, What a run...

[Ants!]

lol I totally forgot that part >.< I wonder what hes thinking right now...

On MSNBC they said that he met with Obama shortly after the results were in and congratulated him and such.

[Mike!]

Gosh, 338-155, What a run...
LLLLLLAAANNNNNNNNDDDSSSSLLLLLLIIIDDDEEE!!!! :link:

[:.FireStorm.:]

That shows you how little you know. Canada has a socialized economy.

Link (http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/02/24/75-threatening-to-move-to-canada/)

Wow, I read the bottom and I laughed

Note: Canadian white people threaten to move to Europe.

Note: Europeans are unable to threaten to move anywhere.

ha.

[Ants!]

Obama's making a speech now. Atm he's on "we're not red states and blue states we're united states".

[:.FireStorm.:]

*Stares at TV*

[Ryan!]

Powell would be a great secretary of state, I think, considering Richardson wants to stay a governor. McCain could be his foreign affairs adviser. Could be a good cabinet.

[Mike!]

Notice how they people at Obama's rally clapped and cheered for McCain.

...And McCain's people booed Obama.

[Ants!]

*Stares at TV*
*Listens to living room tv from office* :P

Thanking McCain.

Okay, I'll stop with the updates now.

[:.FireStorm.:]

Notice how they people at Obama's rally clapped and cheered for McCain.

...And McCain's people booed Obama.

Good Point, see! McCain Creates Haters!! lol jk

[Ants!]

Notice how they people at Obama's rally clapped and cheered for McCain.

...And McCain's people booed Obama.

Well it's easier when you have to be a graceful WINNER ;)



Anyways, it's bound to do McCain some sort of good that he can duck out from associating with Palin another minute. It would be his best shot at a spot in the new administration, since there's no way he'll live long and healthy enough to try again.

[storm4]

Notice how they people at Obama's rally clapped and cheered for McCain.

...And McCain's people booed Obama.

Uhhh.....I'm sorry, it was more silent than anything. Hardly any cheering. No big deal, that just wasn't my take.

[:.FireStorm.:]

Well it's easier when you have to be a graceful WINNER ;)



Anyways, it's bound to do McCain some sort of good that he can duck out from associating with Palin another minute. It would be his best shot at a spot in the new administration, since there's no way he'll live long and healthy enough to try again.

*Cough*Heart Attack*Cough*

[Legendaryking6]

Ddidn't Jerry Springer say he was gonna run for office a few years ago? He'd make a great president!

Springer-Montell in 2012!

[:.FireStorm.:]

If Springer tried, I would vote for him...Indeed I would...

[Dean]

Ddidn't Jerry Springer say he was gonna run for office a few years ago? He'd make a great president!

Springer-Montell in 2012!

That would truly be an historic election!

[:.FireStorm.:]

he finished, *sniff*
Brings a tear to your eye

[Dean]

Roderick says:
McCains People are dicks
Roderick says:
they were like
Roderick says:
BOOO OBAMA
BARACK OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA says:
BOOOOOOO
Roderick says:
and then
BARACK OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA says:
yes
Roderick says:
when Obama spoke
Roderick says:
and he mentioned McCain
Roderick says:
they cheered him
Roderick says:
lol


For anyone doubting if there were boos... A Lucid Mind clears up the controversy!

[Shoryuken]

;_;

He had those electoral college votes in his HAND.

[Mike!]

Dean, I already mentioned that. :P

[:.FireStorm.:]

Him and McCain are Friends! lol, well at least they didn't turn into rivals.

[Cyanide]

Oh no, we elected Obama, that muslim terroist will kill us all!

Nice job to Obama though, finally a sensical foreign policy approach. It's also nice to see (those damn) young people talking about politics for a change

[Legendaryking6]

Roderick says:
McCains People are dicks
Roderick says:
they were like
Roderick says:
BOOO OBAMA
BARACK OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA says:
BOOOOOOO
Roderick says:
and then
BARACK OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA says:
yes
Roderick says:
when Obama spoke
Roderick says:
and he mentioned McCain
Roderick says:
they cheered him
Roderick says:
lol


For anyone doubting if there were boos... A Lucid Mind clears up the controversy!

The enter/return button works wonders for people who are trying to figure out when one sentence ends and the next begins.

[Mike!]

Still sour grapes, huh?

[Dean]

The enter/return button works wonders for people who are trying to figure out when one sentence ends and the next begins.

I'll be sure to tell A Lucid Mind your complaints...

Obama seemed a little tired, a little somber... That dude deserves some rest now.

Still sour grapes, huh?

Maybe he can center his frustration to smash them all, ferment them with his rage, and serve us wine.

[Mike!]

Make it Dom Perignon '44 and I'm cool.

[Legendaryking6]

I prefer a nice Chibli (sp?).

[Fool's Requiem]

Barack Obama is the President Elect of the United States of America
:rotfl:
Aw, man, my fokes are going to be PISSED, lol. They're Bush supporters, you see, and for some reason they seem to think that Bush has done a fantastic job as president. The last month 8 years or so proves otherwise, but they fail to see the obvious evidence because "The media is only talking about the bad things." What they don't seem to understand, is that if there were any good things happening we'd hear about it too. Good news is just as TV worthy as bad news.


*Stares at TV*

*Continues to play video games without a care in the world.

[Ants!]

I logged back in because there was something I forgot to say earlier, but first:Dean, I already mentioned that. :P

And I'VE already pointed out that the nice side is the winning side and the booing side is the side that lost. I mean seriously, drop this charade already. I've listened to things said by Obama supporters in the last few weeks, and I could even link you to dozens of posts in this very section of the forums where people called McCain disgraceful, despicable, would destroy the country etc. Do not try to kid me that, had Obama lost, his supporters would still be this civil and not booing as well. People were very emotionally involved in this election on both sides, it's understandable to be upset at losing at first, you would have been too. Let them cry it all out and don't be so quick with the fake "holier than thou" talk.

I'm sorry to rant like that in you guy's celebration thread, but I couldn't let that go by.


And for what I forgot to say earlier: even though Obama was never my choice, I'm also proud to have been a part of this election, and there are definitely far worse candidates out there than Obama. In the past I was hoping Hilary would win the Primary because if this election went democrat I preferred her over Obama. But in the past month or two I've very much changed my mind on that.

[Ascension]

I voted early this morning and then fell asleep and woke up at 10 to find out Obama has been elected. Great news. His speech was amazing.

[Mike!]

Chris Matthews is my new hero.

"George W. Bush is not a tough act to follow." :chuckle:

[JoetheShow]

The booing doesn't bother me as it'd work both ways if the opposite result occurred. McCain is a good guy and should have been president elect 8 years ago. I hope he makes his way into Obama's plans. Obama is the right guy for the job now and I'm ready to start helping this country not suck.

[Dean]

Obama - 52,076,486
McCain 48,160,000 (not sure of the last three digits)

With 76% reporting...

Obama has 51% so far. This is the first time since Reagan versus Carter that somebody gets more than 50% of the popular vote.

[blitz]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/11/04/sot.mccain.concession.short.cnn


McCain lost gracefully in my opinion. His supporters annoyed me. Congratulations to you Obama and Biden. I hope you lead our country to a better era.

[Cody.]

Well, I too was a McCain supporter also, but never really paid much attention to the campaigning and depended mostly on the major details I heard from family and friends. (Yeah, I'm not so much of a political person...) But, I did know enough stuff on my own that led me to follow more along McCain's side. There were important things mentioned that led me to bounce back and forth but McCain still won me over.

Still, congrats to all the Obama supports, history has definately been made and I am proud of it also.

Nice work Obama. :^:

[Big]

Either sensible result wouldn't have bothered me.
I enjoyed both speeches, as both men proved to be class acts.

The only thing that just really scares me is that a single party, the Democrat party, controls the White House, the Senate, and the House. Just a wee bit lopsided there. But hey, if it works, I won't complain.


Gogo Warren Buffet on the Cabinet.

[Dean]

I was being semi-sarcastic about the whole booing thing. Of course they're going to boo. I would've been really pissed if Barack lost, both because I feel he was the superior candidate and I don't want John McCain in office. I'm sure the people on the other side feel the exact same way. It was no worse than the backlash from Hillary supporters. And McCain was also more classy than Hillary and Bill.

[Harris]

This was my first presidential election, so it's kind of a cool feeling to have the candidate I voted for win such an important election for the first time off the bat. Here's to change.

[Chris!]

McCain was really classy, because he really isn't a dick at heart. I honestly think that he's a decent guy.

But yeah, Obama wins! I don't quite understand why LK wants to move to Canada or is convinced that Obama will destroy the country, but I digress. More than half of America is happy for once.

[Legendaryking6]

I was being semi-sarcastic about the whole booing thing. Of course they're going to boo. I would've been really pissed if Barack lost, both because I feel he was the superior candidate and I don't want John McCain in office. I'm sure the people on the other side feel the exact same way. It was no worse than the backlash from Hillary supporters. And McCain was also more classy than Hillary and Bill.

As pissed as say me about Obama winning?

[Fool's Requiem]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/11/04/sot.mccain.concession.short.cnn


McCain lost gracefully in my opinion. His supporters annoyed me. Congratulations to you Obama and Biden. I hope you lead our country to a better era.

I kinda feel bad for McCain. Not because he lost but because his supporters were sore losers.

McCain is a good guy and should have been president elect 8 years ago.
McCain vs. Gore. I wonder how that would have gone down.

[Legendaryking6]

McCain was really classy, because he really isn't a dick at heart. I honestly think that he's a decent guy.

But yeah, Obama wins! I don't quite understand why LK wants to move to Canada or is convinced that Obama will destroy the country, but I digress. More than half of America is happy for once.

I was being sarcastic about moving to Canada. But I still say we're all f*cked.

[Squall]

Oh no, we elected Osama, that muslin turrist will kill us all!

Fixed that for you.

Hooray for the election.

[Steven]

Given McCain's immediate concession of his bid for Presidency, and how graceful he was, and his expertise and experience on a whole host of issues, mostly foreign policy related, I would not be surprised if either McCain or Colin Powell, or maybe both, were to be given spots on an Obama cabinet.I have high hopes about this.

I believed McCain was the lesser of two evils, simply because my grandparents are people who would be taxed higher under Obama's plan. However, despite McCain's questionable antics, he's still a respectable man who knows his stuff, so if Obama does add McCain, there's a whole deal of respect from me.

I kinda feel bad for McCain. Not because he lost but because his supporters were sore losers.Is it that hard to drop this? I know several Democratic supporters that would have cried blasphemy if a Republican won again this year. People get emotional, it's normal. =/

[Dean]

It's actually really refreshing to see such a wide variety of people - young, old; rich, poor; of all backgrounds, of all ethnic groups - become truly engaged in the political process for the first time since the Vietnam War.

I also think it's safe to say that there is no national Bradley Effect...

[JoetheShow]

There are a couple of VERY close elections still going on in Alabama.

[Majin]

LANDON LANDON LANDON LANDON

[SegaDragon]

Recount shows that McCain won every state.



Yay, I don't have to leave the country! Gobama!

[Squall]

IN goes to Obama, NC looks like it will as well, and MO is -extremely- tight. If all those break to Obama, he'll hit 375.

[Dean]

Oh, did they give Obama Indiana? That must've been how he jumped from 338 to 349. I better go update my tally in the other thread...

EDIT:

For the conservatives:

http://mvred.com/?p=676

[shortkut]

Fixed.

Also:



You being so overly happy about putting a black man into office is proof in itself that you didn't give a sh*t about what he stood for and were only voting for him to put a black guy in the oval office. People like you sicken me to no end.
they should only sicken you if before this they were saying "let's elect him so he will be the first black president." what dean did is mention, after the fact mind you, that this is historic. pointing out fact should not be sickening. throwing away all the opinions you had in 2000 and 2004 like McCain have just for any stupid reason is sickening

Let me point something out yet again:

So he's the 1st black president- so what? If you really and truly didn't care about race, you wouldn't be focusing on Obama's race to begin with. It was bound to happen sooner or later. The fact that you're harping about his race so much in that one post just goes to show it's not his policies you care about.

I don't care about his race. I care about his policies. And honestly, they scare the sh*t outta me.
yes it would happen eventually. when that date happens it would be a significant sign of how the times are changing... hey look, that date was [yesterday]. holy ****, the times are changing, that is remarkable.

When did I call him a stupid f*ck? All I remember is calling his spread the wealth policy socialist, because that's part of what socialism is.
i take it you haven't studied socialism at all if this is enough to make obama a socialist.

Damn nimrodders.



And when he proceeds to run this country into the ground like he inevitably will, I don't expect to hear any from you, either.
is this the same type of no complaining that bush voters had to abide by both times they elected him?

Whatever. F*ck this, I'm going to Canada.
pack your bags

Ddidn't Jerry Springer say he was gonna run for office a few years ago? He'd make a great president!

Springer-Montell in 2012!
i believe it was for senator or governor (of Minnesota?), not president

I was being sarcastic about moving to Canada. But I still say we're all f*cked.
if that is the case, just be glad we voted for lube

[The_Mess]

Congrats /swigs beer

8 years of inept, lying, faith-based government is 2.5 months away from being over. :D

On the other hand California's Prop 8 has gone through :mad: Evidentially some people in California are idiots who can't grasp the very, very simple conclusion reached by the Cali. Supreme Court...

if that is the case, just be glad we voted for lube
:^:

[Ralph Nader]

On the other hand California's Prop 8 has gone through Evidentially some people in California are idiots who can't grasp the very, very simple conclusion reached by the Cali. Supreme Court...


I know wtf. I think its because there were a sh*t load of supporters campaigning on the streets. There were very few people going no on 8 and those who were campaigning "no" were acting like jerks and yelling at people in front of their kids.

[The_Mess]

I know wtf. I think its because there were a sh*t load of supporters campaigning on the streets. There were very few people going no on 8 and those who were campaigning "no" were acting like jerks and yelling at people in front of their kids.

Well, only ~48 of the precincts are in, so maybe it wont pass, but given human nature, I'm not certain that will happen and Prop 8 will probably go through. Only to be struck down again at the Supreme Court level*, wasting money and resources on what is a mostly clear-cut human rights issue.

*that's assuming my limited knowledge of US state law is right...

Hmmn, it occurs to me that McCain loss and the increased Democrat majority in the Senate might precipitate some infighting in the Republican party, particularly over the "energising" of the religious right by Palin...

[storm4]

Someone mentioned Chris Matthews as a hero....just wanted to point out that Matthews is a worthless hack. Someone else said that McCain's side is sore losers; Look at the history of this decade, and then maybe you'll realize you really shouldn't go there. As for President Bush, there are so many things that could be said abut these last eight years. The fact theat so many people really believe what has been spoon-fed how everything is Bushes fault is just really scary. These will be the same people who give Obama a pass when things get rough; it will STILL be Bushes fault. Meh....'tis the nature of politics. Could say more, but honestly, ths ain't about Bush or Matthews, etc. Time to accentuate the positive.

[Noise]

I'm still busy blaming Reagan. I'll get to Bush in 20 years or so.

[Justibackwardsn]

He's not the president I wanted.

Never-the-less, I'm a democrat and can tolerate the decision. I just hope he can live up to such a historical moment. MLK didn't get killed for a black president to go in and do the same thing as Bush did. Hopefully he will be extraordinary and do something for this country that pleases everyone.

e: Also, hopefully America has learned its lesson on keeping the same president for 2 terms in a row. 1 is enough, and it keeps the seat fresh and with new ideas.

so STOP!

[:.FireStorm.:]

Psh. I'm currently in school and Everyone is complaining, sure my school is full of racist bastards but they keep saying in a few weeks an assasination attempt could be made against obama.

[Beha]

Someone mentioned Chris Matthews as a hero....just wanted to point out that Matthews is a worthless hack. Someone else said that McCain's side is sore losers; Look at the history of this decade, and then maybe you'll realize you really shouldn't go there. As for President Bush, there are so many things that could be said abut these last eight years. The fact theat so many people really believe what has been spoon-fed how everything is Bushes fault is just really scary. These will be the same people who give Obama a pass when things get rough; it will STILL be Bushes fault. Meh....'tis the nature of politics. Could say more, but honestly, ths ain't about Bush or Matthews, etc. Time to accentuate the positive.
This.

And I wouldn't be surprised if something happens, honestly, but I doubt it will. Security will have dramatically increased around him now.

[The Eye in the Sky!]

People have been making comparisons to JFK around here and that kind of scares me since I've heard of assassination plans. I've been saying that they'll take some troops from Iraq and surround Obama. :D

This really does feel different... like an entire culture change in the country. The kids are just as important as the old people in politics... people were listening to the candidates rather than just saying "I'm voting democrat/republican" for the most part. Finally apathy is being fought.

[soulcalibur2007]

Congrats Obama. You did it. Now just don't f*ck it up.

I did not vote for him. His policys (just as with LK) scare me, but the people have spoken. He has been elected fairly and justly and I wish him the best of luck. He has a big task ahead of him.

Lets only hope things turn out as rosey as he thinks they will under his watch. Only time will tell.

[SegaDragon]

For the conservatives:

http://mvred.com/?p=676Did they just blame the loss on McCain not being conservative enough? Wasn't that the point of Palin? Didn't she only hurt their campaign? And would McCain not being conservative enough make a conservative vote liberal? It seems obvious that the majority of America doesn't want the conservative BS anymore.

[soulcalibur2007]

Also, for the record. I'm the one who called Obama a Democrat f*ck a while back, not LK.

[Chris!]

No, you both did, as you can clearly see by the link in the post alleging that.

[Ants!]

Hmmn, it occurs to me that McCain loss and the increased Democrat majority in the Senate might precipitate some infighting in the Republican party, particularly over the "energising" of the religious right by Palin...

Probably at first, but I think that once it passes they'll realize they need to rethink their strategy. That's what I remember happening in 04: when Kerry lost, Democrats first reaction was to turn in and start bickering but as you can see they really unified a lot of people just one presidential term later.

Edit: I also recall reading on liberal blog sites that many blamed the loss on not going with Howard Dean.Did they just blame the loss on McCain not being conservative enough? Wasn't that the point of Palin? Didn't she only hurt their campaign? And would McCain not being conservative enough make a conservative vote liberal? It seems obvious that the majority of America doesn't want the conservative BS anymore.

I think there's just some confusion out there between regular conservatives and Neocons.

[Dean]

Old school small government, low tax conservatives are now Libertarians.

Neo-con big government conservatives (ala Bush) are Republicans.

That is a sweeping generalization/stereotype, but it holds true...

Anyway, I'm not going to bother splitting this thread. There really isn't much of a point. Onto the first big news pieces of the day...

[SegaDragon]

My dad told me democrats are big government, and republicans are small government. =/

[Dean]

Republicans USED to be small government, but look at George W. Bush. I think he is as responsible as anybody for this "divide" in the Republican party. Bush, and particularly Cheney, felt there should be more government control. I won't go into violation of the Constitution and everything, but it's clear that a lot of the small government conservatives of old were anti-Bush.

EDIT:

Here is a pretty interesting article for both Dems and Republicans to read. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27521807/)

[Fool's Requiem]

For the conservatives:

http://mvred.com/?p=676

Wow, Youngstown? God, that place is a s**thole... in fact that whole area is falling apart. I got to visit the area about a year ago. My brother had to pick up his Tux for Prom or something. Have you seen the way Niles looks now? It almost looks like the roads haven't been paved in almost 30 years. All development money has gone to the Eastwood mall, and every thing else got screwed over.

That said, it's good to see that some republicans aren't sore losers.

[Majin]

If Obama doesn't **** up hard in the first term. Reelected. If he doesn't **** up there, another democrat.

All the way until Republicans become Libertarians.

[Modest Mouse]

The only reason Obama won by so much is because he's black. That may sound racist but its true. A lot of black people had no idea what he stood for, he was black and they wanted a black man to be president. If he was the same person, same beliefs, same struggles, but he was white. He may not have won, or won by nearly that much. I don't like Barack Obama very much, his plans just dont seem to be right, but I will respect him as our president. And this is a historical moment, this is a huge leap in America. And now, African Americans can see that we respect them, and racism is a thing of the past for most of the country. I just hope he does a good job and fixes everything. It's going to be exciting watching everything that happens.

[Ryan!]

but it's clear that a lot of the small government conservatives of old were anti-Bush.


Hi.

Anywho, I can almost agree with Majin, but the Democrats are going to need to be careful with how they handle the majority. If they become too liberal, the moderates in this country will quickly grow tired of it and the Repubicans will rebound. Especially if they go to Libertarian Republicanism. There are variables, of course. Like for instance if the Democrats lead us into some sort of prosperity in these next eight years. That's a stretch, though. They could very well vastly improve things, but leading us into some sort of nirvana state is a long shot I wouldn't give more than a 10% chance on.

[Howitzer_]

:D yayyyyy

america finally is ready for a black president. just hope he doesn't get assassinated by some klansmen.

[Pochitos]

I wonder what crossed through the KKK's mind when Obama was elected.

[The Eye in the Sky!]

Probably nothing.

Yeah, that's right.

[Howitzer_]

Probably nothing.

Yeah, that's right.

? this confuses me

nvm, i found this.


White Christian Supremacist group the Ku Klux Klan has endorsed Barack Obama to be the next President of the United States of America.

Speaking from his Kentucky office in Dawson Springs, the Imperial Wizard exclaimed that anything or anyone is better than having that "crazy ass bitch" as President.

This is the first time in Klan history that any member of the KKK has ever publicly supported an African American candidate for the presidency.

KKK lodges all over America have been gathering and holding rallies supporting the black presidential candidate.

whoops that was false

this was on the kkk's website

It has happened! Yes, it is just as we expected and have suggested for months. Obama has become the first mulatto president of the United States. I know that you have been hearing that Obama would be the first black president. However, you and I both know this is not true. Obama is only half black. Not only is he only half black - he was not raised in a black environment. He was raised by his single mother, because his black father did what is so common with black men that there are jokes about it. His father abandoned him and his mother and Obama only saw his black African father one time when he was 10 years old. The photo at the right shows Obama with his African father.

Is the election of Obama shocking to us? Not at all! We have been telling our people that unless white people begin sticking together this is exactly what would happen. So, for it to now become a historical fact is of no surprise nor did it blind side us.

The ones who will be shocked and blind sided are those who will one day be awakened to what they have done!

But those of you who are are now awakened - this is your opportunity to begin the process of sticking together.

The president elect now stands as a symbol to our people throughout this nation that change is indeed coming. What will it mean for those who are being disenfranchised from the very nation purchased by the blood of their forefathers? It could mean an awakening of our spirit and blood. Every time the television shows an image of Obama it will be a reminder that our people have lost power in this country. We actually lost that power 40 years ago, but with a white president people would go to sleep thinking at least white people were still running things. Now there is no reason to believe this. The betrayal will stare them in the face each time they watch the news and see little black children playing in the rose garden.

Are we angry that 96% of blacks voted for Obama? Not at all! They voted what they felt would serve their best interest. They voted for Obama because he is one of them. But white people who foolishly rejected the future security of their children only heard the sound of the piper.
So we have to admit that this may be the best thing that has happened to us. It perhaps comes as a wake-up call to the sleeping giant deep in the heart of our people.

So don’t despair! Don’t be discouraged! We have been saying this would happen. We have said that there is a growing subtle hatred for our people. This has not been a battle between Republicans or Democrats. This was not a battle between liberals and conservatives. This is a race war - a culture war - being waged against white people. As more and more non-whites come into this country the hatred for the founding people will grow.

The Bible says, "When my judgments are in the land the inhabitants of the earth will learn righteousness."

If you think it is time for white people to start sticking together. If you want to do something to help provide a future for you children then you need to become part of a movement working for our people. We are not asking you to hate anyone! We are not asking you to commit an illegal act. We are not asking you to hurt anyone. We just want you to love your people and do that which your forefathers did - give your children a bright future.
White young people who are celebrating Obama's victory, stop and consider you may not agree with us but you have to admit we were right about one thing. We have said that there is the calculated design to get into the minds of young people and turn them away from loving our people. Every time you reject your white heritage you prove once again we were right.
I ask you, What is so bad about loving your people? Black people are proud to love their people, why aren't you?

[Dynomite]

Well congratulations Obama, despite you not being my choice, I still think you'll make a good president. I don't think all of his ideas will work, but he can't screw up as much as Bush, right?

[Jofish]

? this confuses me

nvm, i found this.





this was on the kkk's website

That statement was so full of contradiction and ignorance it made me giggle.