New Disturbed song- Perfect Insanity

[WTF d00ds?]

Has anyone heard this new single just released by Disturbed off their new album, Indestructible? I just heard it on the radio, and I think I need a fresh pair of boxers. This song is just audible sex. I expected their new stuff to be good, but this song is easily 100x better than any of their previous efforts, and it's clear they've advanced lightyears as musicians.

[DemonHunter15]

Hmm, i cant say i have heard it, but maybe i did and cant remember, thanks for bringing this song to my attention:D


~DH15

[Mrmakee]

Hmmmm. I got a song called perfect insanity by distubed from my friend ages ago, well over a year.

[WTF d00ds?]

I wiki'd the new album and apparantly it's a re-recording of an older song, though I have all 3 of Disturbed's albums and it's not on any of them.

[Believe The Sickness]

It's pre-The Sickness. There's a recording of it on the dvd MOL. I haven't heard the new version of it on the radio but the original was sketchy, sound quality-wise.

[Mrmakee]

Yeah the original isn't one of their best. Anyone got a way I can hear the new version?

[Civil Disobedient]

There's a sample on their MySpace of it - just sounds like any other of their songs. That is, moronic single-note riffs, unintelligible lyrics and mindless repetition.

[Luceid]

Anyone got a way I can hear the new version?

you can get it from their website.

[WTF d00ds?]

There's a sample on their MySpace of it - just sounds like any other of their songs. That is, moronic single-note riffs, unintelligible lyrics and mindless repetition.

I.E. Death Metal?

[Civil Disobedient]

Are you seriously trying to say Disturbed are a Death Metal band? Or that what I just described also describes Death Metal? Either way you look like a complete tool.

[Mrmakee]

Gees man settle down, hes entitled to his own opinion, no need to attack him.

I personally like the song better the first time. This remake of its gonna take some getting used to. But they certainly have changed their style like they said they would. I'm not sure if i'm gonna like this new stuff as much as their old stuff though.

[Luceid]

i don't know if i like it or not. i have their previous three albums, and while i'm not a huge fan, i like them. i think it's ok, but it does seem a little typical of them. if it was from before their first album, i'm not surprised. i don't know if it's indicative of the other stuff that's going to be on their new album. dramain said the new album is supposed to be "the darkest stuff we've ever done" but this song seems pretty typical of them.

[Mrmakee]

I dunno, the vocals seem to have changed quite a lot to me.

[AllThingsEqual]

Gees man settle down, hes entitled to his own opinion, no need to attack him.
He does have a point though. Death Metal isn't some type of music made by people who don't know how to play their instruments. Some of it is really really hard to play, i.e. Cynic.

[The JoZ]

He does have a point though. Death Metal isn't some type of music made by people who don't know how to play their instruments. Some of it is really really hard to play, i.e. Cynic.

But some of it is extremely repetitive, has lyrics you couldn't decipher if your life depended on it, and is generally unlistenable.

I realize not all death metal is that way, but Civil's opinion of Disturbed isn't all that accurate either.

That being said, if this song represents the new album, they have completely failed at writing a new kickass album. If it doesn't, well, then there's still hope.

[AllThingsEqual]

But some of it is extremely repetitive, has lyrics you couldn't decipher if your life depended on it, and is generally unlistenable.
1. Some of it is extremely repetitive, which is the stuff you just don't listen to. Every genre has bands that rip off the bands that started it. In the same way there can be bands who are repetitive.
2. Lyrics are not music. Lyrics do not make sound. If you want me to prove it to you then print off your favorite lyrics from the internet and lay it on a table. See if it makes a sound. I mean, I hope the main reason we listen to music is for the music. Lyrics should just be some side that you can't judge a band by.

I realize not all death metal is that way, but Civil's opinion of Disturbed isn't all that accurate either.
Well I find Disturbed boring. Their riffs are boring and are not anything special. The band isn't really original at all and they are stereotypical nu-metal. They do repeat a ton of stuff and to me a heck of a lot of their songs sound the same. They recycle past material like crazy and it gets annoying.

I can't agree with Civil on the lyrics though because I don't think it has much to do with the music except for the sounds of the words. It comes down to what you interpret. Are you interpreting the sounds the words are making or are you interpreting the words? Now with that said, I am not anti-lyrics and I do enjoy them. Just not when I am listening to music. I think the only band I make fun of for the lyrics is Dragonforce, but that is just for the joke.

[The JoZ]

1. Some of it is extremely repetitive, which is the stuff you just don't listen to. Every genre has bands that rip off the bands that started it. In the same way there can be bands who are repetitive.

I agree, but you basically told the other guy he was wrong for calling death metal repetitive, yet...now you're saying all music has repetitive bands. Make up your mind :hmm:

2. Lyrics are not music. Lyrics do not make sound. If you want me to prove it to you then print off your favorite lyrics from the internet and lay it on a table. See if it makes a sound. I mean, I hope the main reason we listen to music is for the music. Lyrics should just be some side that you can't judge a band by.

No, because if that were the case, everybody would either fail to write any lyrics at all, or they would all be completely inane and pointless. The lyrics tell the story of the song. Yeah, I listen to the music for the music part of it, but there's a reason I don't listen to purely instrumentals: Because I like hearing people say stuff.

Also, that being said, I could print out some sheet music of any band you like, lay it on a table, and it wouldn't make any sounds either. ;)


Well I find Disturbed boring. Their riffs are boring and are not anything special. The band isn't really original at all and they are stereotypical nu-metal. They do repeat a ton of stuff and to me a heck of a lot of their songs sound the same. They recycle past material like crazy and it gets annoying.

Never did I say they were innovative (though I still refuse to recognize your or anyone else's usage of the term 'nu metal') nor 'special'. I just happen to like what they do, even though it's not breaking new ground. So what?

I can't agree with Civil on the lyrics though because I don't think it has much to do with the music except for the sounds of the words. It comes down to what you interpret. Are you interpreting the sounds the words are making or are you interpreting the words? Now with that said, I am not anti-lyrics and I do enjoy them. Just not when I am listening to music. I think the only band I make fun of for the lyrics is Dragonforce, but that is just for the joke.

In your previous point, you say bands shouldn't be judged by their lyrics, yet you make fun of DragonForce for their lyrics. Kinda contradictory, don't you think?

[AllThingsEqual]

I agree, but you basically told the other guy he was wrong for calling death metal repetitive, yet...now you're saying all music has repetitive bands. Make up your mind :hmm:
I didn't say he was wrong. I just said that not all death metal bands are like that. I quote myself:

He does have a point though. Death Metal isn't some type of music made by people who don't know how to play their instruments. Some of it is really really hard to play, i.e. Cynic.

No, because if that were the case, everybody would either fail to write any lyrics at all, or they would all be completely inane and pointless. The lyrics tell the story of the song. Yeah, I listen to the music for the music part of it, but there's a reason I don't listen to purely instrumentals: Because I like hearing people say stuff.
The lyrics would not be pointless. As I said before, I am not against lyrics. I just think that when you grade music by something that isn't music, then we have a bit of a problem with the logic. Second of all I don't think the lyrics always tell the story of the song. I have heard multiple songs where it seems like the lyrics purposely contradict the songs true message. That was my interpretation of the message though. The music's message is something you interpret, hence I don't think one can say a song HAS to be about this or that. Lastly you can listen to "people say stuff" without interpreting the lyrics. You just listen to the voice and the emotion it is fused with.

Never did I say they were innovative (though I still refuse to recognize your or anyone else's usage of the term 'nu metal') nor 'special'. I just happen to like what they do, even though it's not breaking new ground. So what?
What I don't understand is why would you like something like that? Why wouldn't you just listen to the innovative band that that band took from? I mean, I don't see any emotion (though this is debatable) and I don't see the originality. What is left?

In your previous point, you say bands shouldn't be judged by their lyrics, yet you make fun of DragonForce for their lyrics. Kinda contradictory, don't you think?
Well you can't help, but laugh at that graph that shows what words are used on Dragonforce's new album.

[The JoZ]

I didn't say he was wrong. I just said that not all death metal bands are like that. I quote myself:

But even that statement is contradictory. To state that it's not the kind of music played by bad musicians, but then to say that only some of it is hard to play...which is it?

Besides, just because someone is a great musician does not automatically make them a good songwriter.


The lyrics would not be pointless. As I said before, I am not against lyrics. I just think that when you grade music by something that isn't music, then we have a bit of a problem with the logic.

But the lyrics are part of the music. For years, there have been choirs and other groups that performed without any instruments. Are you saying they aren't musicians? Are you saying that singers don't perform music? If you are, then I guess you can say the lyrics aren't part of the music, but you'd also be incredibly mistaken.

Second of all I don't think the lyrics always tell the story of the song. I have heard multiple songs where it seems like the lyrics purposely contradict the songs true message.

And how do you know what the "true" message of a song is unless 1) you wrote it yourself or 2) the artist has specifically stated what a song means? And if the latter has happened, who are you to tell them that the words they chose for the song aren't the right ones?

What I don't understand is why would you like something like that? Why wouldn't you just listen to the innovative band that that band took from? I mean, I don't see any emotion (though this is debatable) and I don't see the originality. What is left?

Why does anyone like anything? Why do you like death metal? Why does anyone like rap?

I like "Overburdened" because it is a bass-driven song, with a cool bassline, something you don't hear often in mainstream music. I like "I'm Alive" because of the the cool riff switching from 6/8 to 5/8, plus I like the emotion behind Draiman's vocals in that song. I don't have any real reason for liking things like "Stricken" or "Avarice" other than I just like them.

If I want innovative, I'll go listen to Tool or Dream Theater. But sometimes I don't want all that technicality, I just want to rock out to rather mindless music. There's nothing wrong with that.

Well you can't help, but laugh at that graph that shows what words are used on Dragonforce's new album.

Yeah I saw that too, that was definitely worth a chuckle.

[AllThingsEqual]

But even that statement is contradictory. To state that it's not the kind of music played by bad musicians, but then to say that only some of it is hard to play...which is it?I said some of it is really really hard to play. At the moment I can't think of any death metal songs that are on the level of easiness to play as most Disturbed songs.

Besides, just because someone is a great musician does not automatically make them a good songwriter.
I know that, which is why I don't consider somebody to be a great artist just because they can shred out i.e. John Petrucci. I mean the guy is pretty talented guitarist, but his stuff gets rather bland sometimes. I feel like sometimes he concentrates to much on being really really talented instead of putting emotion into his music.

But the lyrics are part of the music. For years, there have been choirs and other groups that performed without any instruments. Are you saying they aren't musicians? Are you saying that singers don't perform music? If you are, then I guess you can say the lyrics aren't part of the music, but you'd also be incredibly mistaken.
That is because choirs are singing lyrics. The voice is an instrument, Lyrics are not a musical instrument. Choirs use voice, a musical instrument, to create music. Therefore singers do preform music. I just do not consider the lyrics to be music. The lyrics are the actual English words that so not make sounds themselves.

And how do you know what the "true" message of a song is unless 1) you wrote it yourself or 2) the artist has specifically stated what a song means? And if the latter has happened, who are you to tell them that the words they chose for the song aren't the right ones?
You cut off the rest of what I said. Here is what you missed:

Second of all I don't think the lyrics always tell the story of the song. I have heard multiple songs where it seems like the lyrics purposely contradict the songs true message. That was my interpretation of the message though.

Why does anyone like anything? Why do you like death metal? Why does anyone like rap?

I like "Overburdened" because it is a bass-driven song, with a cool bassline, something you don't hear often in mainstream music. I like "I'm Alive" because of the the cool riff switching from 6/8 to 5/8, plus I like the emotion behind Draiman's vocals in that song. I don't have any real reason for liking things like "Stricken" or "Avarice" other than I just like them.

If I want innovative, I'll go listen to Tool or Dream Theater. But sometimes I don't want all that technicality, I just want to rock out to rather mindless music. There's nothing wrong with that.
I don't think you understand my argument. I like EVERY kind of music, I just dislike certain bands in each genre because they bring nothing new to the table. Disturbed is one of those bands. You compare people to why they like death metal or why they like hip-hop, but a more accurate question to ask would be why I like music. You could even ask me why I don't like unoriginal bands if you want to, but I think that you may possibly know the answer yourself.

[The JoZ]

I said some of it is really really hard to play. At the moment I can't think of any death metal songs that are on the level of easiness to play as most Disturbed songs.

I mean, it depends on how you define 'easy'.

I don't know a lot of people who could accurately do the 6/8 to 5/8 shift I mentioned in "I'm Alive", but the riffs themselves are not that technical, no.

Just because something is technical doesn't mean it's automatically good anyway, which carries over to...

I know that, which is why I don't consider somebody to be a great artist just because they can shred out i.e. John Petrucci. I mean the guy is pretty talented guitarist, but his stuff gets rather bland sometimes. I feel like sometimes he concentrates to much on being really really talented instead of putting emotion into his music.

As a huge fan of Dream Theater, I can say that this argument has been quite the topic among fans. Petrucci has been roundly criticized for his inability or lack of desire to play emotional guitar solos over shred-fests. If you look at their last two albums, Octavarium and Systematic Chaos, Petrucci does in fact show a ton more emotion in his playing and writing as opposed to the shred-happy Train of Thought. Some say he was influenced by the fan's opinions, but I can't vouch for that personally.

That is because choirs are singing lyrics. The voice is an instrument, Lyrics are not a musical instrument. Choirs use voice, a musical instrument, to create music. Therefore singers do preform music. I just do not consider the lyrics to be music. The lyrics are the actual English words that so not make sounds themselves.

But the lyrics are part of the musical arrangement when there are lyrics involved.

I don't think you understand my argument. I like EVERY kind of music, I just dislike certain bands in each genre because they bring nothing new to the table. Disturbed is one of those bands. You compare people to why they like death metal or why they like hip-hop, but a more accurate question to ask would be why I like music. You could even ask me why I don't like unoriginal bands if you want to, but I think that you may possibly know the answer yourself.

But the thing is, at this point, almost every band is unoriginal in some way, shape, or form. Everybody is doing something that someone else has already done, they just put their own flavor to it.

Disturbed, for instance, is doing their own version of hard rock. I won't deny that some of it (especially Sickness-era Disturbed) is repetitive, but still. They're good at coming up with halfway decent riffs, halfway decent lyrics, and Dramain doesn't sound like he's trying to channel Cobain or Vedder or some other famous rock singer like some others have done. That's good enough for me in my book.

[Steven]

I heard Disturbed perform a Cold Gin (by KISS) cover.

Needless to say, I've hated them ever since. Their single isn't terrible, however, but my opinion remains the same.

[The JoZ]

In case anyone cares, Disturbed has their first official single, "Inside the Fire" on their Myspace now.

While guys like CD and Inuzuka aren't going to like it, I definitely think it's a huge improvement over "Perfect Insanity".

Is it a great song? No, not really, but it's got a couple of cool moments. The solo toward the end is kinda neat, as is the section immediately following it is cool as well.

Thoughts or whatever I guess can go here.

[Jssoul22]

i like the song.

[Mrmakee]

the song was alright i guess. its a change from their old stuff, just doesnt seem the same to me.