Where can i find Official company Reports on their medicine? And a discussion on Meds

[Ralph Nader]

Or clinical research on any drug?

My philosophy and psychology teachers is scaring the crap out of me. Literally. theyre telling me that the FDA requires medicine to pass a 1 death in one million in order to market it. They also told me that the worst medicine of all is anti depressants. All processed food is also bad for you. . . Even fish is bad for you (mercury). Ritalin is just as bad as cocaine, and children are being misdiagnosed.

In my stance in antidepressants, i prefer to suffer through it than risk suicide. And by risk suicide i mean Have you read/seen the side effects of anti-depressants?

(Me, Rockstarhitman, and Eye in the sky were discussing this in television)
http://www.ssristories.com/index.php

Thats actually why I want to see the reports on medicine. I want to see what the companies actually say about their medicine.

I am so afraid of eating out. Thank god for gordon ramsey. He showed me the light of fresh all natural cooking.

Also if you guys have any home remedies that would be great. I need a home remedy for cold and headache. Trade you my home remedy for sore throat and something spicy.

Home Remedies
1. Sore throat: Cayeene pepper. Take a pinch and put it at the back of your throat. This is my favorite home remedy.
2. Accidentally Ate something spicy - Milk. Best one.
3. Headache -
4. Common Cold -
5. Aches and pains -

But of course my home remedy for everything - Chicken Soup. It boosts the spirit, making the mind help the body heal faster.

[dark knight]

the best way to get though a ailment is to ignore it.

You'll still be sick but the more you dwell on your symtoms the worse they become, it's like how you can make yourself sick by simply convinceing yourself that you are sick.

useing some treatments are alright, but don't overdose yourself or run to the phamacy for help with a cold or litle things. Thats how superbugs are born as they learn to adapt to the last 'cure' you used and become imune you have to use something stronger the next, the survivors become imune to that ect...

I agree with the children being misdiagnosed for add and adhd, sure the ailments may exist, but unless someone is a older teen to adult should you be sure. a child may not be able to focus for a nomber of reasons and because they are bored cus people treat them like they are stupid as logs may be one of them, parents that rather shove them in front of a tv or videogame rather then spend time with them and encurage inteletual/pysical vents like playing and imagining like they should may be another. Or jsut simply because they are kids and they don't want to grow up as quickly as society expects them to. Really we have homework by grade 3, and grade 1 and up schooling is similar to a job. look at the absenteeism polocy if you don't believe me.

Though you may want to point out to your teachers that to continually stress out about what you eat is worse for you then a few preservitives now and again. Stress will kill you faster then fat, and society today is almost geared towards makeing people stress and fret about what they eat, how they diet, what they are doing for the enviroment ect. Make reasoned choices but don't fret about needing to buy processed stuff or non organic or not whole wheet bread/noodles when thinsg are tight finantially, as eating the way everyone is preaching to us to eat costs a arm and a leg.

Eating out is alright, people don't get sick constantly, and a bit of fat and greese won't hurt you, it's when you take things to essessive orders that things get unhealthy. I might eat out once a month, generally once every two months. fast food like burgers and fries are saved for when we are traveling and may be short on time, and/or are hungry when we pass one ie maybe 4 times a year. Don't stress about the small thinsg and if you try to keep yourself in a hygenic bubble you'll disarm your imune system and make it more nessisary to take medication. Go ahead live a little, a bit of dirt never hurt anyone either. I know I will never ever buy a air filter or something that is suppose to get rid of 99% of germs, cus as said before that 1% will eveolve and grow and eventually become a superbug if our society keeps up this trend of hygenics.

Headaches can go away by spending time in a dark quiet place, or will go away once the pressure system in the area moves on, congestion/synuses clear up ect. Asprin is a pain controler and of the painkillers out there its the one dirived from a synthetic version of willowbark, humans have been takeing willowbark tea for headaches and general pain for eons, and of the painkillers out there it is the safest.

my grandma has a drug book on all of the parmiutical drugs and over the counter ones I'm sure a similar book would exist in your area you may have to look it up though.

My advice is if your ill and you can't shake it in three days yuo should get it checked out. Myself I ignore whater ails me unless the pain is unbareable, I throw up or need to use the washroom often. then I take sick days and try to rest it out, I use the three day rule though for those cases that if my system can't expell it by then I'll seek help. I'll ask alternitive non medical treatments from my doctor also and more often then not try to take as little of any pescribed medication as possible. I think we tend to over medicate ourselves myself but their are some things that need to be treated lest they get worse.

oh and saltwater solutions on infections is a remidy I've heard often

[Ralph Nader]

Eating out is alright, people don't get sick constantly, and a bit of fat and greese won't hurt you, it's when you take things to essessive orders that things get unhealthy. I might eat out once a month, generally once every two months. fast food like burgers and fries are saved for when we are traveling and may be short on time, and/or are hungry when we pass one ie maybe 4 times a year. Don't stress about the small thinsg and if you try to keep yourself in a hygenic bubble you'll disarm your imune system and make it more nessisary to take medication. Go ahead live a little, a bit of dirt never hurt anyone either. I know I will never ever buy a air filter or something that is suppose to get rid of 99% of germs, cus as said before that 1% will eveolve and grow and eventually become a superbug if our society keeps up this trend of hygenics.

Actually i was watching kitchen nightmares and ive always wondered if there are kitchens like that. . . Who serve up food that are filled with germs. On a side note, Never, EVER eat fried rice in an asian restaurant. Im not saying that all asian restaurants are like that, but most are. Some of my family members work in those restauraunts, and friends too and all of them say that they have, usually everyday, recycle the white rice from peoples plates. I was going to make a new topic about the food in restauraunts. . . Maybe next week. Ill tell you more of what not to eat in restauraunts. Oh yea and avoid buffets.


My advice is if your ill and you can't shake it in three days yuo should get it checked out. Myself I ignore whater ails me unless the pain is unbareable, I throw up or need to use the washroom often. then I take sick days and try to rest it out, I use the three day rule though for those cases that if my system can't expell it by then I'll seek help. I'll ask alternitive non medical treatments from my doctor also and more often then not try to take as little of any pescribed medication as possible. I think we tend to over medicate ourselves myself but their are some things that need to be treated lest they get worse.

yea i usually go to the doctor if ive been sick for a while. But if she tells me its not fatal, i dont take the medicine. What really disturbs me is that i think my doctor sucks. She keeps telling me that ive looked better and got healthier because i took the medicine. but in reality, I did nothing at all but sit on my butt and sleep. But usually i take the time to relax and drink tea and contemplate on how complex life really is. . .

Go ahead live a little, a bit of dirt never hurt anyone either.

I think i already experianced everything ive wanted. Except for the obvious one for guys, I think im already done with life. Thats why im a teacher now. Once Ive learned everything i need to know, All that is left for me is to teach all i know.

[dark knight]

eh I don't think most asian restorants I know would be able to get away with that as most gave up on serveing white rice as no one actually eats it. people don't go to a reasuraunt to eat pain white rice they can cook themselves.

That show is evil in that it will make people parranoid about resauraunts. There are health officials and they do try to stomp out that sort of behaviour if not always by ruleing then by threat. I remember my hositality teacher when I was in high school always fretted about their visit. I''ve toured a few resturaunt kitchens, their is sometimes something I would never do in the course of foodhandleing, the worse was a fancy resurant that had a side of beef on the counter and were letting it drip blood on the floor. but overall the kitchens didn't have anything unhealthy or dangerous. if you continue to worry about it there are many resturants these days with open kitchens, where, if your of a mind, could watch them cook and prepare your food.

[Ralph Nader]

That show is evil in that it will make people parranoid about resauraunts.

It totally does. But its just so funny. And in reality im using that to learn how to cook. Ive been trying to copy that fish cake recipie. . . But the problem is that my parents watch it too and they force me to wash the dishes. . .

if you continue to worry about it there are many resturants these days with open kitchens, where, if your of a mind, could watch them cook and prepare your food.

I prefer those restauraunts too. Cant find them around here in my place. Most of the time. . .Dang im getting off topic. . .


But concerning meds. . . Ive recently heard in the news about vaccines. . . That some of them actually kill children on the first shot or develop a massive allergic reaction .. . Wow. . .

[Isis]

One death per million would be very low and an acceptable risk for some medications, IMO. There's almost always going to be someone out there who is allergic to the medication, there's just no way around that. However, would you rather keep the medication off the market for that 1 person who was allergic and let the other thousands possibly die, or just try to screen more carefully and know there will be some risks? This isn't just about tylenol, but about life saving medications.

As for anti-depressants, there are many factors other than just the media scare tactics. The drug companies have to list the side effect even if they aren't 100% sure the medication caused it. Some of these suicides cannot be determined to be directly related to the medication. Others, the medication was given without proper supervision and/or the person was under the age of 18 - most drug companies don't test meds on kids unless they are specifically for them. The responsible person deciding to take an anti-depressant would make sure they are supervised - at least to the point a friend or family member knew they were taking it and could keep tabs on them. I've taken anti-depressants off and on for probably 8 years now. I've yet to attempt suicide while on them, though I've certainly thought about it without them.

With regards to vaccines, it is just like other medications in that there are risks. They try to lower the risks, but it happens. However, from a public health standpoint, the lower risk of reactions in a few people is often more acceptable than the risk of thousands of deaths due to diseases like there were before vaccines. It sounds cold, but there you have it.

I guess as a nurse, I see some things differently. I do not believe people should be taking medications they do not need, but there are some medications that you just can't get around not needing if you want to survive certain illnesses. I also believe in education so that people aren't taking herbals that interfere with the medications they do need as that is a very big risk. I have taken care of many people who need the medications. There's no way they can just wish away their high blood pressure or the fact that they just got a stent in their heart and need medication to keep it open or they'll die. Though, yes, I think a good dose of self motivation and good thoughts can help people get "better". Just an example here, I recently had a patient who did not like to visit the doctor or take medications. The patient got what they thought was a cold, ignored it. It moved into their chest, ignored it other than taking Advil for several months. It moved into their abdomen and their legs started to swell. Finally came to the doctor and found out the illness they had been self treating for months had caused kidney damage and liver damage. So, no, I don't think doctors know everything and that we should run to them at every instance, but I do think we need to listen to our bodies and not be afraid to ask for help.

I guess what I"m trying to say is that there is more to it than simple black and white. People need to be educated and involved with their health.

There are no meds that cure the common cold, nor any herbals I've ever heard of. Rest, plenty of fluids, possibly some vitamin C, and chicken soup (it has been proven to have something that boosts the immune system) is about all you can do. Just manage the symptoms.

As for a headache, I don't know any household remedies off the top of my head (no pun intended), other than maybe rest and quiet. Or if you want to get technical, aspirin was originally made from tree bark so that's kinda herbal.

I'm not sure where they put up clinical research, but you should be able to go to the pharmaceutical website for the medication and look it up there. I can't think of one place that houses all that info off the top of my head, but I'll post if I come across something.

[dark knight]

As I said a three day rule is best. You don't want to ingnore something that can get potentially worse over time. If durring that three days more symtoms arise by all means see a doctor.

I mainly don't like anti-depressants because the feel good effect is addictive from what I heard. Now some need the help, don't get me wrong. But if you feel you can keep control of yourself so that you are not a threat to yourself, don't take it. There are too many people who rush to the pill cabnet whenever they have the sighest symtom, even if it is the overnight flu bug.

I am wary about vaccines, but I didn't mind my son getting the basic ones to keep him safe, but the infamous flu shot.... now my aprehention about that isn't one of the typical consiricy theorys, it's more along the line of how the shots are yearly and my fear of that in a generation or so after these flu shots have been created and distributed we'll start haveing even more powerfull and potentally deadly flu-bugs. Though self treating illnesses can be just as dangerous as ignoreing them, which is why I ask my dr about the alternate treatments rather then guess.

[Ralph Nader]

However, would you rather keep the medication off the market for that 1 person who was allergic and let the other thousands possibly die, or just try to screen more carefully and know there will be some risks? This isn't just about tylenol, but about life saving medications.


Whoops. I forgot to mention about the live saving medications. . . I really meant for the cold medicines, Cough medicines and tylenol. . . Things that people can get easily for just simple colds and minor illnesses.

I really meant to complain about people who take medicine for something so minor. And people who take Anti depressants because they feel depressed. I am so afraid of going to the psychiatrist that when my friends and family staged an intervention for me, I had a new goal in life. . . To get them to leave me alone. Jogging and a punching bag was very helpful. Also my cousins cat. Which is why i want to adopt a cat. It feels like i had something to live for, like i had a daughter. . . Not that i ever thought of suicide. I used to have an evil mind set. Ive always wanted to die in battle, saving a persons life, Something meaningful.

But there is another reason for my fear of anti-depressants. My cousin used to be so happy, but she is mentally handicapped. The family doesnt like talking about it or anything. But when she started to lash out, the mother started feeding her anti-depressants. Shes changed. Completely. She never lashed out on me, or my dad. We are actually the only two that she probably likes. Thats also my reason for my anger for ritalin. Just because a kid acts in that way, doesnt mean they deserve drugs.

I really really want to become a psychologist, and a teacher. . . I have 2 more years till i actually have some clout.

Isis, You are a nurse, youve seen these things probably all the time. . . That scares me.


Now some need the help, don't get me wrong. But if you feel you can keep control of yourself so that you are not a threat to yourself, don't take it.

That sums up everything. Really good statement.


So i guess only for emergencies . . .