Top 5 anticipated albums of '08

[Spiner202]

What are your top 5? I don't really have 5. I'm really only looking for 3 and this is my order:

1. HammerFall - Right now, they've become my favorite band and their latest release (excluding the greatest hits cd) is now my favorite. Every song (except 1) is really amazing on that cd so I'm really excited to see where they're going next.

2. Metallica - Though I'm not sure if they count since this cd might never come out, it still is Metallica and for that reason I'm excited to hear this cd, I'm just expecting to be disappointed.

3. Alice Cooper - Along Came A Spider - Though I haven't been into Alice's stuff as much lately I still love his work and his last few albums were disappointing but he is a really amazing song writer and I still think he'll turn out a pretty good album.

[The Eye in the Sky!]

Well I dunno if I have five since I'm not too sure what is coming out this year but I've heard that Muse is working on a new album for the end of the year and Franz Ferdinand has something planned for the year. Trans-Siberian Orchestra said they have an album for the summer or fall as well. Avantasia's new album The Scarecrow is to be released later this month so I'll see how that is. Pyramaze also has an album coming soon with former Iced Earth singer Matt Barlow (I think that's his name). So I'll go with a temporary list.

1. Avantasia's Scarecrow (Sounds more pop but you can't go wrong having guest stars like Eric Singer, Alice Cooper, the guitarist from the Scorpions, Khan, Michael Kiske, Kai Hansen, and other people)
2. Muse's next album (I can't believe I never listened to them before now)
3. Franz Ferdinand's next album (More time = more quality songs, plz)
4. Pyramaze's new album (It's going to be Pyramazing)
5. Trans-Siberian's next album (Its not going to be Christmas related)

[Declan]

Chinese Democracy:P

[Austin.]

Scott Stapp's new Album in August.
Hopefully a new Alter Bridge album though not likely.
Maybe a new MB20 album Highly unlikely.
Ummm...
Thats all I got.
I can only confirm one and thats the first one.

[The JoZ]

New Slipknot, new Disturbed, new Metallica.

Don't care if ya'll don't like any of the bands, those are albums I am eagerly awaiting to see how each band has progressed, if any.

Also, In Flames' "Sense of Purpose".

[Spiner202]

Ok now I have a top 5. I forgot about Slipknot and Disturbed. Though I really forgot Dragonforce, so they could overtake Disturbed. My new list:

1. HammerFall
2. Metallica
3. Alice Cooper
4. Dragonforce
5. Slipknot

[The Crowing]

1. Protest the Hero- Fortress

2. The Mars Volta- The Bedlam in Goliath

3.The Fall of troy-Phantoms on the Horizon

4.Dear Hunter- Act III (this is fourth simply because it's very unlikely they'll get it out by the end of the year)

5.new Muse album

[General Tso]

"A Sense of Purpose" - In Flames
"The Bedlam In Goliath" - The Mars Volta
"The Alchemy Index: Vols. III & IV - Earth & Air+ - Thrice
"IF" - Mindless Self Indulgence
New Slipknot
New Team Sleep

And probably some more I've forgotten at the moment...

[Believe The Sickness]

In order of possible release dates:

Protest The Hero - January 29
Metallica - February 2008
In Flames - April 4
Death By Stereo - mid 2008
Rise Against - fall 2008

Not even sure if DBS or Rise Against will get theirs out this year. But the others have me quite excited.

[coheed]

I've only got two off the top of my head . . . The Dreams You Dare to Dream by Brave Saint Saturn (PLEASE finish it!!) and The Bedlam in Goliath - The Mars Volta (seems a bunch of people here are eagerly anticipating this).

Edit: Chris Daughtry REALLY needs to make something new.

[Flip-Hkd]

Children Of Bodom - Blooddrunk

[Dark Cadence]

Counting Crows, which comes out in March
Hopefully Ben Folds will announce a new album; same with Guster.
Zox - Line in the Sand

And despite already owning it (Pre Order) State Radio's Year Against the Crow is an AMAZING album. And if you like Dispatch, definitely check them out.

[Nicholas]

Ill Nino-Enigma. Looks like a promising album, and I like the band.

[Majin]

New Thrice, Saves The Day, Anberlin, Underoath, and In Flames.

For some reason I don't feel like I'm going to be impressed too much with the new Protest the Hero and The Fall of Troy.

[Mrmakee]

Metallica
Disturbed
Dragonforce
Bodom

Got into dragonforce last week, the other bands just last year. Looking forward to hearing their new stuff.

[coheed]

New Thrice, Saves The Day, Anberlin, Underoath, and In Flames.

For some reason I don't feel like I'm going to be impressed too much with the new Protest the Hero and The Fall of Troy.
I too am anticipating the new In Flames album . . . not so much because I'm a big fan of theirs, but reportedly they're recording their new album on Orange Tiny Terror (http://humbuckermusic.com/ortitehe15wa.html) amplifiers and I want to see how it sounds. :)

Oh, one I forgot . . . I hope He Is Legend gets back in the studio in 2008 and makes something better than that piece of crap Suck Out the Poison album . . .

[Cluck]

New Thrice, Saves The Day, Anberlin, Underoath, and In Flames.

For some reason I don't feel like I'm going to be impressed too much with the new Protest the Hero and The Fall of Troy.The new Protest shall be amazing, sir. I'm not so sure about FoT, but they haven't let me down yet.


Dance Gavin Dance
The Devil Wears Prada
Oh, Sleeper
Here I Come Falling (mah buddies)
Circa Survive

[Tequila Sunrise]

Her Name is Nicole - Nicole Scherzinger
Aside from The Pusssycat Dolls now I think she's really going to be big in the club scene. Some good guest spots lined up here as well.

Blooddrunk - Children of Bodom
They havent put an album out to date I haven't liked. I have no idea what to expect here.

Detox - Dr. Dre
Years after 2001 dropped, this albums been long awaited by many. Again not sure whats to be expected yet.

Before I Self Destruct - 50 Cent
Allegedly Fiddys last album will also be dropping late this year. It'll be interesting to get the details on how exactly he'll be going out with a bang.

I've also heard Opeth will have another album coming this year.

[Kid_A]

Again with the deja vu! :P

Most Anticipated Records For 2008:

Nine Inch Nails
Of Montreal
The Postal Service (Supposedly)
Gnarls Barkely
The Mars Volta
Franz Ferdinand

[Fool's Requiem]

I'm still waiting for a new Green Day album, maybe they'll release it this year...

[Majin]

The new Protest shall be amazing, sir. I'm not so sure about FoT, but they haven't let me down yet.


Dance Gavin Dance
The Devil Wears Prada
Oh, Sleeper
Here I Come Falling (mah buddies)
Circa Survive


Where did you hear DWP, Sleeper, and new Circa? I've heard new DGD, but that's it.

[RockstarHitman]

Chinese Democracy:PAxl will croak from old age before that ever sees the light of day. :rotfl:

[DemonHunter15]

I can't wait for Disturbed's new Album "Indestructable".:rock:

[Bird Flu]

1.Underoath's new one
2.Slipknot's new one
3.Indestructible - Disturbed

[JoetheShow]

Counting Crows

I heard a few tracks already when I was on an airplane and they were very good. "Washington Square" was probably my favorite.

5. Metallica- I have to. I just have to...
4. Underoath
3. Saves the Day
2. Thursday
1. Death Cab for Cutie

[Vermin]

1. Primus are supposed to be coming out with a new album
2. Alice in Chains are supposed to be poppin' one out as well.
3. Anti-Flag's The Bright Lights of America aught to be a decent listen as well.


in all honesty those are the only bands i can really think of.

[The Crowing]

The new Protest shall be amazing, sir. I'm not so sure about FoT, but they haven't let me down yet.
Agreed. I read a review that said this album was better than Kezia, and I view Kezia as the greatest debut album...ever. If it even comes close to being on the same level as Kezia, I'll be very pleased.

[AllThingsEqual]

Opeth's new album
Draconian - Turning Season Within
Common's new album
Therion's new album
Mos Def's new album

I really can't wait for Opeth's. Akerfeldt said a major infleunce would come from Scott Walker.

[~Lightning~]

1. In Flames, I own EVERY album they're put out and I love the maajority of them. This one shouldn't be any different.

2. Disturbed : Awesome Band, gotta love Draimans vocals.

3. Slipknot : Again, see In flames.

4. Metallica, I only recently got into them. Despite being a metalhead, I never really liked them but I listened to the greatest hits album, got hooked on "One" and ended up listening to them a lot more.

5. Shadow Reichenstein, I'm hoping for a new album but I don't know.

[AllThingsEqual]

I also cannot wait for Cynic's new album coming out. I was hoping they would make another album. Plus the new song I heard on youtube was pretty good.

[One Of Light]

New Prize Fighter Inferno...
New HIM maybe...
New DISTURBED!!!!!
and please, retire Metallica...
lol and Chinese Democracy...

[~Lightning~]

and please, retire Metallica...


Aren't you the guy who thought Avenged Sevenfold was the best album of 07?

Yeah, I thought so.

Metallica are more talented than AS will ever be, before you say it; No, I'm not a Metallica fanboy. I listen to epic/operatic metal mainly, I'm just telling it how it is.

[The Crowing]

Opeth's new album
Draconian - Turning Season Within
Common's new album
Therion's new album
Mos Def's new album

I really can't wait for Opeth's. Akerfeldt said a major infleunce would come from Scott Walker.
How did I forget about the new Opeth album? That's gotta be like...number three for me. Can't wait for it.

[Silverbolt]

1. In Flames
2. The Fall of Troy
3. Alexisonfire
4. The Mars Volta
5. Bullet For My Valentine

Yes, I like BFMV. H8 all you want.

[One Of Light]

Aren't you the guy who thought Avenged Sevenfold was the best album of 07?

Yeah, I thought so.

Metallica are more talented than AS will ever be, before you say it; No, I'm not a Metallica fanboy. I listen to epic/operatic metal mainly, I'm just telling it how it is.

more talented than they will ever be... *wobbles hand back and forth* probably not... half the guitar on the last 2 avenged sevenfold discs is better than anything kirk hammett OR james hetfield has ever recorded.
THERE I SAID IT.
Metallica = older and sellouts... yes.
the talent is NOT the issue, it's the issue of whether or not I can respect the artist. When Metallica releases a new disc, I will have to make sure to use Bearshare or something to get it lol just to spite them.

music is about respect to me as well as the music itself... certain bands, like Dope, i like their music but don't really respect the members of the bands... Edsel Dope in that case...
it's why i don't like Slipknot (yet love the Murderdolls go figure...)

[~Lightning~]

Sellouts?

Avenged sevenfold are prissy teen metal.

Also, good going on telling us you intend to download illegally.

*post reported*

[Noise]

Metallica = older and sellouts... yes.Go listen to an older A7x album. Queens of the sellout right there.

[The_virus]

I will have to make sure to use Bearshare or something to get it lol just to spite them.


As per the website-wide GW rules, you are warned for mentioning illegal acts/download programs.

http://forums.gamewinners.com/rules/index.php

[Spiner202]

more talented than they will ever be... *wobbles hand back and forth* probably not... half the guitar on the last 2 avenged sevenfold discs is better than anything kirk hammett OR james hetfield has ever recorded.
THERE I SAID IT.
Metallica = older and sellouts... yes.
the talent is NOT the issue, it's the issue of whether or not I can respect the artist. When Metallica releases a new disc, I will have to make sure to use Bearshare or something to get it lol just to spite them.

music is about respect to me as well as the music itself... certain bands, like Dope, i like their music but don't really respect the members of the bands... Edsel Dope in that case...
it's why i don't like Slipknot (yet love the Murderdolls go figure...)
So you don't respect the people in Metallica? How about arguably the most popular and influential metal band ever? How about people who stopped over 300,000 people from illegally downloading their songs? It may seem selfish to you but it was a great move on their part.

Their new stuff may sound different, but that can be looked at as a good thing. Slayer is a great example. Outside of Raining Blood, if you've heard one disc, then you've heard them all. Metallica changed their style and for that they should be credited. While most fans (including myself) don't like the new stuff, that doesn't make them sellouts or a bad band. And seriously, A7X sucks. Like they need to get a real singer. Sure they can play riffs but their singer is so band that I actually can't listen to them at all.

[Majin]

3. Alexisonfire


I really hope they go in the direction the first half of the last CD went. It kinda fell apart in the second half, and the first half was so amazing.

[Civil Disobedient]

Also, good going on telling us you intend to download illegally.

*post reported*I'd bet 100% of the people in this thread, nay, this forum, download music illegally. Including myself.

Oh no, are you going to report me now? :rolleyes:

[Spiner202]

Whether or not people do it, it's against the rules to mention if you do it, so (based on my limited knowledge of the rules) you can be warned for that.

I however stopped that and realized the good ways of getting music. I don't even buy (or d-l if you will) from Itunes, I go for the cd :).

[Civil Disobedient]

90% of the music I download doesn't come from the big 6, and around half of the bands i've supported in some way, be it a CD, merch or going to their shows. So as for downloading not being a 'good' way of getting music, I would completely disagree.

Anyway, if I have to be 'warned' for this it doesn't bother me at all. The rule is designed to stop people sharing files either directly or by linking someone, not to stymie discussion, at the very least in this forum. ~Lightning~ just used it because he can't handle someone disagreeing with him, and that's sad.

[Dark Cadence]

90% of the music I download doesn't come from the big 6, and around half of the bands i've supported in some way, be it a CD, merch or going to their shows. So as for downloading not being a 'good' way of getting music, I would completely disagree.

Anyway, if I have to be 'warned' for this it doesn't bother me at all. The rule is designed to stop people sharing files either directly or by linking someone, not to stymie discussion, at the very least in this forum. ~Lightning~ just used it because he can't handle someone disagreeing with him, and that's sad.

No, the rule is to stop any talks of illegal activities. Don't try and play martyr, cuz you're not going to succeed.

[Noise]

'cause this isn't a democracy and non-violent protests are instantly shot down. Although it is good for the fear to be held by the government, and not the people.

Top five bands I look forward to seeing new stuff from in 2008:
Red I Flight
Heaven Shall Burn
With Blood Comes Cleansing
Kalmah
All Shall Perish

[Civil Disobedient]

No, the rule is to stop any talks of illegal activities. Don't try and play martyr, cuz you're not going to succeed.If I wanted to be a martyr, I would have to give a flying ****. Fortunately, I don't.

What you say is completely ridiculous anyway. If it were true, no-one would be able to talk about a murder story in Current Events. Clearly you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

[Dean]

If I wanted to be a martyr, I would have to give a flying ****. Fortunately, I don't.

What you say is completely ridiculous anyway. If it were true, no-one would be able to talk about a murder story in Current Events. Clearly you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Definition: Anyone found to be encouraging illegal acts, regardless of what that act may be, will be warned and/or banned. This includes ABSOLUTELY ANY discussion on ROMS, emulators, cracks (no-CD, etc), serials/key-gens, and pirated media (music, movies, programs.) WE DO NOT CARE IF THERE ARE SOME CASES IN WHICH EMULATORS ARE LEGAL, OR YOU OWN A GAME YOU'RE ASKING FOR A NO-CD CRACK FOR. ABSOLUTELY NO DISCUSSION WILL BE ALLOWED, TO AVOID ANY "Well I thought it was OK!" PERIOD.

Examples: Encouraging the use of illegal drugs.
Asking for a key-gen for a PC game.
Telling people where to download copyrighted software for free.


So by saying you've downloaded music, you're promoting an illegal activity, which is in violation of GameWinners' forum rules. Hopefully you understand.

If you need anymore clarification, I'd say to consult one of the super moderators or administrators, as they might be able to give you a definition that is more comprehensible, including examples of what is and is not allowed.

But by merely posting an informational article about murder, homicide, rape, et cetera, the person doing so is not promoting the act. They are quoting a story, referring to a case, or doing something that would fall under the umbrella of what the Current Events forum is designed for. Inasmuch, posting that you partake in the illegal downloading of music files and promoting such is perceived as supporting the activity.

Again, hopefully this makes sense.


EDIT: Oh, and to avoid straying off topic, I am actually looking forward to Metallica's next album. I'm not quite sure what to expect. I've heard their version of Ecstacy of Gold played on the radio numerous times, and I enjoy it, but it's merely an instrumental (and a cover), so it isn't really indicative of their skill set at this point. Time will tell if they're returning to their roots or pursuing other avenues.

[Civil Disobedient]

Haha, this place is a total joke.

[Spiner202]

EDIT: Oh, and to avoid straying off topic, I am actually looking forward to Metallica's next album. I'm not quite sure what to expect. I've heard their version of Ecstacy of Gold played on the radio numerous times, and I enjoy it, but it's merely an instrumental (and a cover), so it isn't really indicative of their skill set at this point. Time will tell if they're returning to their roots or pursuing other avenues.
They've actually played 2 new songs so far. I'm sure you can find both of them on youtube as they only played them live. The first one is ok, a little long though but I did like the second one a lot. Both of them do have solos though, but I think Kirk is definately losing his touch.

[One Of Light]

So you don't respect the people in Metallica? How about arguably the most popular and influential metal band ever? How about people who stopped over 300,000 people from illegally downloading their songs? It may seem selfish to you but it was a great move on their part.

Their new stuff may sound different, but that can be looked at as a good thing. Slayer is a great example. Outside of Raining Blood, if you've heard one disc, then you've heard them all. Metallica changed their style and for that they should be credited. While most fans (including myself) don't like the new stuff, that doesn't make them sellouts or a bad band. And seriously, A7X sucks. Like they need to get a real singer. Sure they can play riffs but their singer is so band that I actually can't listen to them at all.

Selfish? yes... the point is, that more people than downloaded their music illegally NOW, when they're famous, had already made bootleg cassettes of their shows and songs when they were NOTHING. They turned their backs on legions of people, and a technologically advanced version of the medium that MADE their careers.
And I guess A7X sucking, or ruling, is just a matter of opinion... kinda like Metallica being sellouts... didn't they make a similar, more radio-friendly change, kinda the way A7X did? But the difference is that A7X didn't change FOR anyone other than themselves... all those stories about M. Shadows having to stop screaming due to throat problems are lies... their producer, Mudrock, observes on their DVD "Live Excess" that it was the plan all along, to go from metalcore to a sound "inspired by the bands they liked growing up."
And I never once mentioned that I would download the music... hate to argue semantics but... I said it would be necessary to spite them... which I found pretty witty. It's sad how the entire music community was calling them sellouts after the Napster thing, and St. Anger, yet comes to their DEFENSE? Any of you who called them sellouts 5 years ago but are arguing with me are just as bad... and I don't KNOW who you are... I didn't KNOW you people in that time period... but YOU do. And if you take yourself as seriously as some of you SEEM to about your musical opinions, most of which I have never disagreed with EXCEPT for any sort of caring about a new Metallica record, then you hate that you sold out.
Personally, I loved Metallica up to "the Black album" or whatever you wanna call it... and I loved about half of it... after that the music was missing something... call it soul... call it zest for life... call it whatever you want.
I'm done with this subject, honestly.
The last A7X record was much better than the last Metallica record, in MY opinion. Also in my opinion, M. Shadows is getting to be a pretty freakin good vocalist, but when you've screamed for years it takes some time to learn vocal techniques...
think about that.
I haven't heard any people on here s***canning Atreyu because of the change in their sound?
why is it that A7X gets singled out on here?
he** I haven't even met any HIM haters yet...
wow.

[Dark Cadence]

he** I haven't even met any HIM haters yet...
wow.

Hell isn't censored. And I hate HIM....and basically every other band in this topic. But that's just a matter of my preferable taste.

Add another one to my top anticipated list; Bela Fleck and the Flecktones are releasing a "holiday" album late November '08. Not a big fan of "holiday albums" but anything the Flecktones do are amazing.

[Dean]

Haha, this place is a total joke.

Nobody's forcing you to stay.

They've actually played 2 new songs so far. I'm sure you can find both of them on youtube as they only played them live. The first one is ok, a little long though but I did like the second one a lot. Both of them do have solos though, but I think Kirk is definately losing his touch.

Well, I really enjoyed Megadeth's "United Abominations" in 2007. I'm not expecting nearly as much from Metallica, though.

I'll agree with you that Kirk has lost his touch. I don't appreciate his work after the late 90s nearly as much as the earlier Metallica albums, like Kill Them All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, etc.

I'm glad they're at least attempting to reconcile their failures on St. Anger.

[Powerslave]

i'm looking forward to the Metallica album simply based on the fact that i know that they can make good music. i thought "The New Song" was very good, although i didn't much care for "The Other New Song"

the other albums i am looking forward to this year as it stands are:
the Blaze Bayley Band's new release - criminally underrated band, now they seem to have a stable line-up, they can start making up for lost time.

the second half of Iced Earth's follow up to Framing Armageddon, made all the more exciting due to Matt Barlow coming back into the band, one of my favourite vocalists.

the following aren't really confirmed but should come out this year: Dragonforce, Judas Priest, Savage Circus.

[One Of Light]

Hell isn't censored. And I hate HIM....and basically every other band in this topic. But that's just a matter of my preferable taste.

Add another one to my top anticipated list; Bela Fleck and the Flecktones are releasing a "holiday" album late November '08. Not a big fan of "holiday albums" but anything the Flecktones do are amazing.
yeah I've been listening to Nickel Creek... but the only stuff I'm familiar with from Bela Fleck is his work with Garth Brooks lol...

[Dark Cadence]

yeah I've been listening to Nickel Creek... but the only stuff I'm familiar with from Bela Fleck is his work with Garth Brooks lol...

Bela Fleck is a jazz/bluegrass fusion banjoist. His band (Bela Fleck and the Flecktones) is a rock fusion of bluegrass and jazz. With one of the best bassists alive today (Victor Wooten), an amazingly imaginative and talented percussionist (Futureman {Roy Wooten, Vic's brother}), and an incredibly talented woodwind (sax specialist), Jeff Coffin. ...With a few people thrown in randomly on different tracks.

[Spiner202]

Selfish? yes... the point is, that more people than downloaded their music illegally NOW, when they're famous, had already made bootleg cassettes of their shows and songs when they were NOTHING. They turned their backs on legions of people, and a technologically advanced version of the medium that MADE their careers.

Whether or not people do download more now and you want to call them selfish, they did something right. Downloading songs for free=against the law and because a band that has a different sound tried to put a stop to it that makes them bad or sell out. And they happily endorse bootlegs of their shows. They've said on their website that you can bring recording gear to their shows and tape them and stuff so really they just want you to get what you paid for. You pay for a concert ticket, you should get to see and relive the concert. You pay for a cd, listen to it all you want. You don't pay for a cd, you shouldn't be allowed to listen to it.


And I guess A7X sucking, or ruling, is just a matter of opinion... kinda like Metallica being sellouts... didn't they make a similar, more radio-friendly change, kinda the way A7X did? But the difference is that A7X didn't change FOR anyone other than themselves... all those stories about M. Shadows having to stop screaming due to throat problems are lies... their producer, Mudrock, observes on their DVD "Live Excess" that it was the plan all along, to go from metalcore to a sound "inspired by the bands they liked growing up."
And I never once mentioned that I would download the music... hate to argue semantics but... I said it would be necessary to spite them... which I found pretty witty. It's sad how the entire music community was calling them sellouts after the Napster thing, and St. Anger, yet comes to their DEFENSE? Any of you who called them sellouts 5 years ago but are arguing with me are just as bad... and I don't KNOW who you are... I didn't KNOW you people in that time period... but YOU do. And if you take yourself as seriously as some of you SEEM to about your musical opinions, most of which I have never disagreed with EXCEPT for any sort of caring about a new Metallica record, then you hate that you sold out.


Firstly, the reason I don't listen to A7X is because of their singer. While that is an opinion, it's also a fact that he doesn't have the singing ability of Bruce Dickinson for example.

Next, Metallica did not sell out. They changed their style musically. There are multiple bands that have gone from 1 type of music to another. Just because it happened to one of the greatest thrash metal bands ever doesn't mean that they sold out.

Finally, whether or not you think you should download their music just to spite them, they still did the right thing in the end and call it selfish but it's really just the people who download it that are being selfish.

The last A7X record was much better than the last Metallica record, in MY opinion. Also in my opinion, M. Shadows is getting to be a pretty freakin good vocalist, but when you've screamed for years it takes some time to learn vocal techniques...
think about that.

So this is what, A7X's 3rd or 4th record. Tell me that it's better than Metallica's 3rd or 4th record. And whether or not their singer is getting better, if you want to switch from screaming to singing, make sure you can do it before you actually put it on an album.

I haven't heard any people on here s***canning Atreyu because of the change in their sound?
why is it that A7X gets singled out on here?
he** I haven't even met any HIM haters yet...
wow.

Believe me, people tear apart Atreyu all the time. The difference is that Metallica was one of the biggest thrash bands and definately one of the best and while Atreyu is good at what they do, they definately aren't the best at what they do. The reason you see people calling out Metallica or defending Metallica is because they have so many fans.

[Joe Roberts]

I dont really have a top 5. The only album I really want to have is the new Metallica one. I heard great things about it and I hope they are true. Metallica is with out a doubt my favourite band, but I hope its not another Load... or Reload...

[Clutch]

I dont really have a top 5. The only album I really want to have is the new Metallica one. I heard great things about it and I hope they are true. Metallica is with out a doubt my favourite band, but I hope its not another Load... or Reload...
I think we should be hoping that it's not another St. Anger instead of Load or Reload. It would be a breath of fresh air to hear even another Load from them after that trainwreck of an album called St. Anger.

Albums I'm looking forward to:

- Earth - "The Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull" I'm interested to hear how they've progressed after their last album.
- The new Zombi. Their last 2 floored me, I'm hoping this one delivers as well.
- The new Nachtmystium. I've heard they're straying away from black metal this time in favor of showcasing their Pink Floyd influences. "Black Meddle." It should be interesting.
- I'm also sure there will be at least 3 or 4 Nadja albums this year. I'm looking forward to all of them.
- The new Leviathan and Lurker of Chalice albums. They've been delayed for far too long.

[Joe Roberts]

I think we should be hoping that it's not another St. Anger instead of Load or Reload. It would be a breath of fresh air to hear even another Load from them after that trainwreck of an album called St. Anger.

Hmm you're right. Load and Reload at least had a few good songs on it, lol.
Do you know when the actual release date is for the album?

[Spiner202]

I've heard February but that can't be right as nothing has been confirmed. Honestly though, I'd be happy to see it before Christmas. Don't expect any time soon with Metallica.

[One Of Light]

Bela Fleck is a jazz/bluegrass fusion banjoist. His band (Bela Fleck and the Flecktones) is a rock fusion of bluegrass and jazz. With one of the best bassists alive today (Victor Wooten), an amazingly imaginative and talented percussionist (Futureman {Roy Wooten, Vic's brother}), and an incredibly talented woodwind (sax specialist), Jeff Coffin. ...With a few people thrown in randomly on different tracks.

victor wooten as in the guy who played with the DMB? Interesting...
sounds fun.

[Civil Disobedient]

Metallica are set to begin recording in March with a view to a Late Summer/Early Fall release. Don't expect it not to suck.

http://knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=5301

[Spiner202]

I've heard February but that can't be right as nothing has been confirmed. Honestly though, I'd be happy to see it before Christmas. Don't expect any time soon with Metallica.
Quoting myself...go me :)

My brother was telling me that a few days ago, it was posted that their album would be released in September, I'm gonna go and try to find a link now.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=89095

It claims to have been "delayed" until September.

[Dark Cadence]

victor wooten as in the guy who played with the DMB? Interesting...
sounds fun.

...That's not really what he's known for, as when he played with them, it was like..for a few live shows. He's never been the actual bassist for the Dave Matthew's Band.

[WTF d00ds?]

The albums I'm expecting are:

1. The Offspring
2. Godsmack
3. Disturbed
4. Metallica
5. Dragonforce

I'm probably gonna have to get a fresh set of underpants when the new Offspring and Godsmack albums drop. They, along with Metallica, are really one of the only few bands I'd pay anything to go see live.

[Sigs Minock]

Flogging Molly's Float

though the album has leaked, i support the band by buying the album.

[Mrmakee]

Godsmack are realsing a new album? Well add thet to my list.

[Two Angels And A Dream]

Limp Bizkit - The Unquestionable Truth Part 2 (Hopefully with Wes.)

[JoetheShow]

Wow, Limp Bizkit is making a come back? I'd have to say I am anticipating that although I hate them.

[Two Angels And A Dream]

Wow, Limp Bizkit is making a come back? I'd have to say I am anticipating that although I hate them.

Not so much a come back as just releasing an album that should have been out a few years back. Probably going to turn into another Chinese Democracy type thing.

[Sigs Minock]

Godsmack are realsing a new album? Well add thet to my list.

the only 'new' Godsmack album i've heard of is their Greatest hits compilation... which was released near the end of last October...

[coheed]

For you Disturbed fans . . . (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/disturbed_new_album_in_may.html)

[Bird Flu]

Frozen Electricity - Dry Heave
Fall Out Boy (woo!)

[The_virus]

...Saves The Day...

I'm hoping Daybreak will not disappoint, but STD rarely does. This three-album arc gets better with every release.

[JoetheShow]

I've been getting into Under the Boards pretty heavily lately while I had been indifferent to it before. I'm very ready for the next one.

[mr.rpg king]

This ones pretty easy

The Swords new album
I've heard rumours for both Orange Goblin and Deftones new albums but so far no verification
Alice in Chains new album
Metallica's new album if it ever shows its face

Honorable Mention: Chinese Democracy. Just kidding I hate GnR

[Majin]

I'm hoping Daybreak will not disappoint, but STD rarely does. This three-album arc gets better with every release.


It really just sucks that they lost alot of their fanbase to In Reverie, and now they're struggling with money. Under the Boads was up there with Stay What You Are for me.

[One Of Light]

did anyone hear the latest Nightwish album? I was a bit wary since they changed singers...

Look...
this board seems to be populated with teenagers... I have noticed this, teenagers and 30-somethings for the most part.
Let me tell you something:
I was raised with an uncle who was a session musician - he was at the studio when Lynyrd Skynyrd recorded "Sweet Home Alabama" and he has played numerous shows with "drivin and cryin." he instilled in me an appreciation of music from an ARTIST's perspective, as well as a hatred for the music industry from that perspective.
Bands like Metallica and Green Day who change their sound typically do so as they mature and grow as people... the angry thrash sound of Metallica when they were younger has matured into a sound that more accurately reflects the new influences on the respective musicians' lives... not to mention lineup changes.
My reasons for hating Metallica as people are cited above: they sold out on their fans for money, plain and simple, by suing their freaking fans.
Without fans, no band would ever make a dime, or have a career...
it's as plain as that.
Now some of you think that, because you're big-bad moderators whose rep means a lot, or just 14 year old dicks , that it's no-doubt funny to drop my rep as far as you did, and to run around giving me bad rep for my opinion, and that's fine if you wanna do that, just know that, regardless of your age, it's immature as hell.
If you can't respect other people's opinions, especially since I highly doubt most of you are mature artists of ANY sort, then you have no business in civilized society in general, and your only place where you have ANY sort of life is probably the internet.
To those of you who took what I said about Metallica MUSICIALLY as a criticism, i apologize. I relistened to St. Anger and decided it's not as bad as it could have been... they had a lineup change and all that, after all... I just can't respect them, or take their new music seriously after how they treated their fans.
And as far as A7X goes... most of you have repeatedly spammed me with bad rep for liking them, and if you've done that, then go f*ck yourselves, cuz YOU are the immature 14 year olds.
They are one of the most talented bands from a musical perspective, to come out in at least 10 years.
No, their singer isn't amazing (i.e he's not Robert Plant, George Harrison, or Claudio Sanchez, or Maynard James Keenan, or whoever you prefer)
but considering that he DID have a minor polyp removed from his throat, compared with the damage from years of screaming, he's not half-bad, considering how good the lyrics he sings are.
Oh and how many of you hate him, yet loved GnR and Axl Rose, possible the worst vocalist in Rock history?
Oh and now here comes the bad rep again, I trashed Axl Rose, the ******* of the rock world, who shouldn't finish Chinese Democracy and instead should just die!
Josh Todd from Buckcherry does what Axl did better anyway and sounds better doing it.
Glad I got all that off my chest.
If you don't like it, feel free to PM me... or just down-rep me some more, i don't care anymore really.
if you like it... good rep would be nice... i've dropped almost 20k points in 2 weeks and I DID enjoy having the rep to match my time around here.

[Civil Disobedient]

That sure is a lot of text from someone who likes crappy music.

crappy in my opinion EL OH EL

[AllThingsEqual]

My reasons for hating Metallica as people are cited above: they sold out on their fans for money, plain and simple, by suing their freaking fans.
Fans are idiots. It is all about the music. I mean seriously, the amount of cool Tool fans is so small these days because they are arrogant because they like a band that is creative yet they listen to Tool in repeat and just suck Maynard's **** over and over again. I mean, if you are making music for anything, but the music then you shouldn't be making music. St. Anger sounds absolutely terrible and Metallica has not made a fully good album since Master of the Puppets.

Second of all, A7X hasn't really ever done anything remotely original, and if I wanted to listen to technical guitar work all day long then I will just listen to a band that is actually somewhat technical, Dream Theater. A7X has no soul to its music at all, (one could argue that Dream Theater doesn't either, but that is up for debate.) Nothing about that band is special in any way.

[Spiner202]

Lies!
I only read half of your post. That is because you completely contradicted yourself.

Here is your problem:

My reasons for hating Metallica as people are cited above: they sold out on their fans for money, plain and simple, by suing their freaking fans.


Yet right before that, you said:

Bands like Metallica and Green Day who change their sound typically do so as they mature and grow as people... the angry thrash sound of Metallica when they were younger has matured into a sound that more accurately reflects the new influences on the respective musicians' lives

This makes me think that you think you know what you are talking about, you just want a reason to hate Metallica. It's not about all powerful mods, bad repping you, or anything like that. You said it yourself that bands change and yet you called them sell outs. So make up your mind here, what is your final decision?

[IndianSummer]

I wish there was an easy way to multi-quote everything

Haha, this place is a total joke.

Tell me about it. I got banned for a ****ing song lyric that was my custom title for 4 months without anyone telling me it was against the rules until I was ****ing banned.

We also belong to an entirely different scene. A scene where vinyl is the only way to get a copy of the record, thus illegal download is extremely rampant and necessary for bands to survive. The mainstream doesn't quite get that, they download because they're too cheap to buy the album. ****ing ridiculous because I'm not technically (and probably would get a warning) not allowed to recommend to people where they can find OOP records on the sole basis that they would acquire the records illegally.

I'm hoping Daybreak will not disappoint, but STD rarely does. This three-album arc gets better with every release.

Word. I'm loving the concept arc, not just on one album. I just wish the goddamn vinyl would finally arrive. ****ing Interpunk says that the record is backordered to the year 1900. Yeah, I know Civil, I do like some scenester music. I got into the STD before I evolved musically and just can't shape them.

It really just sucks that they lost alot of their fanbase to In Reverie, and now they're struggling with money. Under the Boads was up there with Stay What You Are for me.

Too be far, In Reverie was awful. I still can't see how people consider it their favorite album. There is no redeeming song there. The real problem is that STD is signed to a major label. Plus they've been on some really ****ty tours lately. If they picked better bands to tour with (the acoustic tour was an absolute disaster for any non-STD bands), they might do better. Or if Chris realized that he has a small, select fanbase and that he has to push SWYA onto people rather than the new album because of the accessibilty. Its kind of sad actually, watching a band as great as STD, just disappearing because of ****ty, generic bands who have no idea what they are doing yet taking away desperate funds from the great bands that actually need them. CD, if you start anything, I will hunt you down. No joke. Though City of Caterpillar is one of the greatest bands to strike the face of the Earth (I really really wish they had an opportunity to release "Driving Spain Up a Wall" on record, it would sound ****ing amazing) I need this one generic band to live. Can't beat them.

No, their singer isn't amazing (i.e he's not Robert Plant, George Harrison, or Claudio Sanchez, or Maynard James Keenan, or whoever you prefer) but considering that he DID have a minor polyp removed from his throat, compared with the damage from years of screaming, he's not half-bad, considering how good the lyrics he sings are.

Christ, that post was ****ing hilarious. Civil was completely right. Listen to Jawbreaker or Jets to Brazil. Blake Schwarzenbach had a polyp removed and the band arguably got better (there is no bad Jawbreaker song, a ****ing great band. Jets to Brazil owns to, Rocket Boy is one of the greatest songs to be recorded). The polyp is just an excuse for people to refuse to acknowledge that Avenged Sevenfold went from being like As I Lay Dying (metalcore crack for those who haven't listened to the two) to being an awful band.

On topic though albums I'm looking forward to even though Pyramids just release a ****ing fantastic album that everyone should try to get (PM me if you need help finding it). Also A Silver Mt. Zion leaked early and The Shorebirds(ex-Jawbreaker and Latterman members, so anyone who likes real punk music should get this. Because this record is vinyl only [so if you don't have a record player you have to illegal download their record] PM me if you're interested in finding a way to hear them). ANd Able Baker Fox (ex-Casket Lottery/Coalesce/Small Brown Bike i.e 3 ****ing great bands) just released their record. So I'll be good for a while
I'll also keep it fairly mainstream as you guys (outside of CD) will have no idea about most skramz bands)

1. Saves the Day (my favorite band, can't help it that Daybreak is my most anticipated. Wish I had a ****ing ride to Grand Rapids so I could see them in April. Right after 4/20 too, would be a fantastic ****ing show even though I hate a majority of their supporting bands.)

2. Thrice - I was pretty disappointed by the most recent EP, here's hoping they don't **** up again.

3. Genghis Tron - The artwork alone makes me want this record. The band is fairly average, not as good as Cursed or the Baroness but goddamn the record artwork is ****ing beautiful.

4. Thursday - They are a great post-hardcore band. If the album comes out this year, should be good. Same if the Alkaline Trio or the Lawrence Arms comes out with an album. Though the Trio has fallen off par lately, I trust them. And the Lawrence Arms just ****ing own. I really wish more peope here listened to punk music.

Yeah, I'm really getting back into skramz (CoC, pg.99, Raein, La Quiete, etc.), midwest emo (Promise Ring, Braid, Mineral, Boy's Life, Christie Front Drive, the Van Pelt), 90s emo(Indian Summer, Assfactor 4, Native Forge) and early emo(Nation of Ulysses, Moss Icon, Embrace, Rites of Spring) [and god there are way too many subcategories of the emo genre] to have many anticipated albums

[AllThingsEqual]

On topic though albums I'm looking forward to even though Pyramids just release a ****ing fantastic album that everyone should try to get (PM me if you need help finding it). Also A Silver Mt. Zion leaked early and The Shorebirds(ex-Jawbreaker and Latterman members, so anyone who likes real punk music should get this. Because this record is vinyl only [so if you don't have a record player you have to illegal download their record] PM me if you're interested in finding a way to hear them). ANd Able Baker Fox (ex-Casket Lottery/Coalesce/Small Brown Bike i.e 3 ****ing great bands) just released their record. So I'll be good for a while
I'll also keep it fairly mainstream as you guys (outside of CD) will have no idea about most skramz bands)
I cannot wait for A Silver Mount Zion's album to come out. I really like their stuff, though I do prefer Godspeed's much more.

4. Thursday - They are a great post-hardcore band. If the album comes out this year, should be good. Same if the Alkaline Trio or the Lawrence Arms comes out with an album. Though the Trio has fallen off par lately, I trust them. And the Lawrence Arms just ****ing own. I really wish more peope here listened to punk music.
Modern punk is terrible except for the hardcore, and emo scene's. Grindcore is flourishing too. Really, punk will never be the same as it was a long time ago with The Clash, Sex Pistols, Wire, The Ramones, etc.

The polyp is just an excuse for people to refuse to acknowledge that Avenged Sevenfold went from being like As I Lay Dying (metalcore crack for those who haven't listened to the two) to being an awful band.
How is As I Lay Dying good? They sound just like Converge except they are less technical.

[Noise]

As I Lay Dying sound just like Converge except they are less technical....what?

[AllThingsEqual]

...what?
Listen to Converge's album, Jane Doe and you will see how As I Lay Dying got their supposed sound.

[Noise]

Only if you date back to As I Lay Dying's first CD, Beneath the Encasing of Ashes. I don't see it in any of the other three.

[AllThingsEqual]

Only if you date back to As I Lay Dying's first CD, Beneath the Encasing of Ashes. I don't see it in any of the other three.
How? As I Lay Dying music is so predictable and never changes. Virtually, every song has some hardcore parts with a breakdown towards the middle and end. That is really the only difference between Converge and As I Lay Dying. Plus there are more metalcore bands ot there that are original like Walls of Jericho, The Number 12 Looks Like You, The Dillinger Escape Plan, etc.

[IndianSummer]

I cannot wait for A Silver Mount Zion's album to come out. I really like their stuff, though I do prefer Godspeed's much more.

You can't deny Godspeed's greatness. But A Silver Mt. Zion and 65daysofstatic kind of make up for Godspeed not being around anymore.


Modern punk is terrible except for the hardcore, and emo scene's. Grindcore is flourishing too. Really, punk will never be the same as it was a long time ago with The Clash, Sex Pistols, Wire, The Ramones, etc.

Obviously you're listening to the wrong group of bands. There are a lot of good punk bands out there today. Its just that they take a different style on punk be it folk-punk (Andrew Jackson Jihad, Ghost Mice), pop-punk (Lawrence Arms, Latterman) sbut still good punk all the way around.

How is As I Lay Dying good? They sound just like Converge except they are less technical.

Never said they were good. I said they were like crack as in no matter how much it sucks you can't stop listening. And that statement is like sying Norma Jean is liek Botch only without being good.

[Civil Disobedient]

Someone comparing AILD to Converge is the absolute pinnacle of stupidity in this thread.

IndianSummer, we are truly brothers from different mothers.

[One Of Light]

I only read half of your post. That is because you completely contradicted yourself.

Here is your problem:



Yet right before that, you said:



This makes me think that you think you know what you are talking about, you just want a reason to hate Metallica. It's not about all powerful mods, bad repping you, or anything like that. You said it yourself that bands change and yet you called them sell outs. So make up your mind here, what is your final decision?

you complete and utter MORON... my reason for HATING them is that they sold out for money BY suing their fans.
They were ****ing millionaires by the time the whole Napster thing came about, and yet they had to stop the people downloading their music because they weren't getting RICHER over it.
God, you must be completely dense, or just unable to read.

*takes a deep breath*

As I Lay Dying aren't bad... but I tend more towards ETID rather than them...

and to those who say I like crappy music...
Yes I am an Avenged Sevenfold fan... their new style is very similar to the old one, but more technical... any of you who say there's no SOUL in their music, listen to I Won't See You Tonight pt 1 or Seize The Day or Gunslinger...
I am a HIM fan... and I refuse to defend that to the snobs in this site... those of you who understand loving a band and NOT ever figuring out why will get this...
HOWEVER... I have been listening to music since I was in the womb. My list of concerts in my lifetime started at age 8 and includes Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers(twice), Aerosmith, Creed, Alterbridge(twice), Paul McCartney, Matchbox 20, Willie Nelson, the Temptations, the Four Tops, Avenged Sevenfold, Coheed and Cambria, Finger Eleven, Sevendust (twice), The Eagles, Elton John, Bob Dylan, the Stray Cats, Brian Setzer Orchestra, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Breaking Benjamin, Seether, Three Days Grace, Steve Vai/Joe Satriani/John Petrucci (G3) and many others I've seen in the 197 band list...
I play music, and make it... and again, I am tired of the consistent attacks from you *******s... it's like NOTHING I say is gonna be good enough, and while debating the point was amusing in the beginning, now it's just growing tiresome.

So go **** yourselves, all you people who pick apart everything I say... again, you are nothing but 30-something losers or 14-year old little turds.

Oh and hearing A7X described as an awful band is music to my ears coming from someone preaching about their most eagerly awaited EMO records.

LOL.

[IndianSummer]

As I Lay Dying aren't bad... but I tend more towards ETID rather than them...

Both are quite different styles of the metalcore genre. AILD is straight up Christian suck, while ETID is more dirty southern I'mma go sleep with my sister right now. But since AILD is all kinds of awful, its not too hard to be better than them

and to those who say I like crappy music...

Well, you do.

Yes I am an Avenged Sevenfold fan... their new style is very similar to the old one, but more technical...

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

any of you who say there's no SOUL in their music, listen to I Won't See You Tonight pt 1 or Seize The Day or Gunslinger...

And to counter that I say listen to their latest album. Their new stuff has no passion, just made so they can make a few more dollars.

I am a HIM fan... and I refuse to defend that to the snobs in this site... those of you who understand loving a band and NOT ever figuring out why will get this...

You still get ONE freebie. You need to choose which band you want your free pass on. I know I like a number of ****ty bands, I accept that. But I counter my ****ty bands with more good bands and not more ****ty bands.

HOWEVER... I have been listening to music since I was in the womb. My list of concerts in my lifetime started at age 8 and includes Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers(twice), Aerosmith, Creed, Alterbridge(twice), Paul McCartney, Matchbox 20, Willie Nelson, the Temptations, the Four Tops, Avenged Sevenfold, Coheed and Cambria, Finger Eleven, Sevendust (twice), The Eagles, Elton John, Bob Dylan, the Stray Cats, Brian Setzer Orchestra, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Breaking Benjamin, Seether, Three Days Grace, Steve Vai/Joe Satriani/John Petrucci (G3) and many others I've seen in the 197 band list...

So many of those I would never admit to people that I saw them live. I give you credit for having the balls to make that kind of statement.

I play music, and make it... and again, I am tired of the consistent attacks from you *******s... it's like NOTHING I say is gonna be good enough, and while debating the point was amusing in the beginning, now it's just growing tiresome.[/quote

Well you can either listen to better music or tell us why what we listen to isn't good though it gets a scenester's panties all up in a bunch.

[quote]So go **** yourselves, all you people who pick apart everything I say... again, you are nothing but 30-something losers or 14-year old little turds.

I'm actually a 19 year old college student at a top 10 university in the country.

Oh and hearing A7X described as an awful band is music to my ears coming from someone preaching about their most eagerly awaited EMO records.

That statement is exactly why my bro, CD, and I make fun of you and won't stop. We will just wear this tigersuit because we're ****ing lambs (only Civil will get this statement. Just felt like being really elitist. I also spent way too much time on this.)

Forgot to put Make Believe, Owen, Joan of Arc, and the Appleseed Cast on my most anticipated.

EDIT: Its really tough to do this knowing you like The Shield. Massive props for that though

[Powerslave]

you complete and utter MORON... my reason for HATING them is that they sold out for money BY suing their fans.
They were ****ing millionaires by the time the whole Napster thing came about, and yet they had to stop the people downloading their music because they weren't getting RICHER over it.
God, you must be completely dense, or just unable to read.

*takes a deep breath*

As I Lay Dying aren't bad... but I tend more towards ETID rather than them...

and to those who say I like crappy music...
Yes I am an Avenged Sevenfold fan... their new style is very similar to the old one, but more technical... any of you who say there's no SOUL in their music, listen to I Won't See You Tonight pt 1 or Seize The Day or Gunslinger...
I am a HIM fan... and I refuse to defend that to the snobs in this site... those of you who understand loving a band and NOT ever figuring out why will get this...
HOWEVER... I have been listening to music since I was in the womb. My list of concerts in my lifetime started at age 8 and includes Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers(twice), Aerosmith, Creed, Alterbridge(twice), Paul McCartney, Matchbox 20, Willie Nelson, the Temptations, the Four Tops, Avenged Sevenfold, Coheed and Cambria, Finger Eleven, Sevendust (twice), The Eagles, Elton John, Bob Dylan, the Stray Cats, Brian Setzer Orchestra, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Breaking Benjamin, Seether, Three Days Grace, Steve Vai/Joe Satriani/John Petrucci (G3) and many others I've seen in the 197 band list...
I play music, and make it... and again, I am tired of the consistent attacks from you *******s... it's like NOTHING I say is gonna be good enough, and while debating the point was amusing in the beginning, now it's just growing tiresome.

So go **** yourselves, all you people who pick apart everything I say... again, you are nothing but 30-something losers or 14-year old little turds.

Oh and hearing A7X described as an awful band is music to my ears coming from someone preaching about their most eagerly awaited EMO records.

LOL.

warned for flaming.

can we stop the petty squabling, people?

[WTF d00ds?]

the only 'new' Godsmack album i've heard of is their Greatest hits compilation... which was released near the end of last October...

Yeah, they are releasing an entirely new album this year. It was announced shortly after their greatest hit album dropped. I don't think it's gonna be out until later in the year though. I read it somewhere on ultimate-guitar.com.

[One Of Light]

I don't know but it did...
Indian Summer... I think YOU like crappy music lol let's agree to disagree...
and while you might be an oddity on forums online in general, I apologize for the general statement about age on here, but this is the only forum I HAVEN't been run off by the 14 year old emo kids and *******s on yet...
Gunslinger, BTW is on the new album... there's soul in it...
and I'm a firm believer, Steve Vai aside, who I think made a deal with Satan in which he played him in a movie, you can't play guitar the way Syn Gates does without soul... he takes pride in every lick he plays, and it shows.
Their lyrics have soul behind them, these days they're more than biblical reference, hell they always have been.
"A good friend once told me, we are our memories, without them we equal nothing." - Remenissions - Waking The Fallen

"Sorrow sank deep inside my blood. All the ones around me, I cared for, or most of all I loved. But I can't see myself that way, please don't forget me or cry while I'm away." - I Won't See You Tonight pt 1. - Waking The Fallen (inspired by the suicide note of a friend of Matt Sanders (M. Shadows)

"Loved ones back home are crying cuz they're already missing me. I pray by the grace of God that there's somebody listening. - Afterlife - Avenged Sevenfold(Self Titled)

"Dear God, the only thing I ask of you is to hold her when I'm not around, when I'm MUCH too far away." - Dear God - Self Titled

and my favorite: "Will you take a journey tonight, follow me past the walls of death. But girl, what if there is NO eternal life?" - Seize The Day - Avenged Sevenfold.

You see, a lot their lyrics are the polar opposite of their music, which is ALMOST semi-mindless metal... yet they add piano, courtesy of their lead guitarist, to flesh out the rhythm tones in songs like Beast And The Harlot, and let's not get into the guitar licks.

And even their angry songs have intelligent lyrics - "label me that's fine I'll be somebody else. Lie about your lives, have a story to tell." - Trashed and Scattered
"But it wasn't a sin, a sorry life judging every action.And as they're feeding your mind with this ****, you forget how to speak, how to ask all the questions..." Blinded In Chains - City Of Evil


They add sub-woofer base, courtesy of a HIP HOP producer, to the song Afterlife to thicken the Groove, since their new album was very beat-inspired.
And they record an 8-minute long, piano driven song about necrophilia based reportedly on a dream their Drummer had, the Rev, and he recorded most of the song in about 3 hours.

There is MUCH more to A7X than meets the eye, hell I didn't like them at first... they grew on me.
And I'm sure there's much more to MOST bands than meets the eye, that's why I like Incubus (who I've also seen live)...
oh and more of my live band list - Seether, Saliva, Incubus, Daughtry, the Dixie Chicks, Alison Krauss and Union Station, Crosby, Stills, and Nash, James Taylor...

lol and finally... I'm not a scenester... I'm actually more of a holdover hippie who quit smoking pot...

I'm just currently digging more scene bands, apart from my regular Beatles listening sessions, one of which is going on RIGHT now...
Today's dish -
The Beatles Anthology 2 disc 2 and 3 disc one...
Now Playing - While My Guitar Gently Weeps (demo) - George Harrison

Thanks for the time... like i said, I don't know WHEN this became fun but it did...
Oh and I actually like some Screamo... but I'm mostly unfamiliar with Emo I guess, apart from the mainstream... I Did hear Brand New yesterday for the first time... whatever they are.

[JoetheShow]

BACK ON TOPIC


I hear the new Death Cab for Cutie album is going to be very different from their earlier releases. I've liked all of their CDs so far so I'm still looking forward to this one.

[One Of Light]

it just makes me sad that Nickel Creek is on hiatus...
Wonder if OutKast will put something else out lol... one of the few hip-hop acts I like...

[JoetheShow]

Eh, I'm not much of a fan of new country. If you're talking about Alabama, Hank Williams, stuff from the 60s, 70s, 80s, and early 90s, then I'm game.

[One Of Light]

Nickel Creek is more of a Bluegrass/Jazz fusion trio... I think you might would like them... they're ODD but... REALLY good.

[Majin]

So I'm really hoping a new Finch disc drops this year, even if it is similar to their last effort.

[mr.rpg king]

Alabama Thunder***** has a new album as well! Or so says Scott848 at the other forum I go to. :D Alright!

[CDink]

wow, theres a load of really bad bands being tossed around in this thread(hey, atleast almost all of them actually have musicians, and they write there songs usually.....so that counts. Yes i dissed hip-hop/rap)

well, im not waiting for much but....

oasis's new album, if it does as well as don't believe the truth were in business

muse's new album BHAR was amazing.

I really don't know of any more bands i like that would come out with music.

artcic monkeys just released an album...

there's always a chance yes could release a new album, becuase technically there still together.

errrrrr, theres suppose to be a comma between album and BHAR....why can't we edit our posts?

oh and just so everyone knows, when i said hip hop/rap...i meant things like soulja boy, and t-pain...i actually do respect real rappers, b/c that stuff has some real emotion.

[WTF d00ds?]

This may be coming a bit late, but you people post in here way too fast. It's almost like an ultimate-guitar.com forum in here.

more talented than they will ever be... *wobbles hand back and forth* probably not... half the guitar on the last 2 avenged sevenfold discs is better than anything kirk hammett OR james hetfield has ever recorded.
THERE I SAID IT.
Metallica = older and sellouts... yes.
the talent is NOT the issue, it's the issue of whether or not I can respect the artist. When Metallica releases a new disc, I will have to make sure to use Bearshare or something to get it lol just to spite them.

music is about respect to me as well as the music itself... certain bands, like Dope, i like their music but don't really respect the members of the bands... Edsel Dope in that case...
it's why i don't like Slipknot (yet love the Murderdolls go figure...)

You can't have been serious when you said A7x are more talented or influential than Metallica. Either that or you were tripping balls when you posted that. Here's just a few reasons why Metallica are the most popular/influential metal band ever aside from Black Sabbath and Ozzy:

1. Ride The Lightning
2. MASTER OF F(_)CKING PUPPETS
3. ...And Justice For All
4. The Black Album

Metallica are far better than A7x in everyway imaginable. A7x did not inspire millions upon millions of kids to pick up an instrument. Hetfield doesn't need to shreik unintelligibly at the top of his lungs to be a good songer, and in fact I believe that's what makes any singer good. One of the main Thrash bands formed in the 80's was spawned from Metallica (I'm talking about Megadeth) kicking one of there members out. A7x couldn't spawn a retarted child even if they tried. A7x didn't record tracks such as Blackened, One, MASTER OF F(_)CKING PUPPETS, Welcome Home (Sanitarium), Disposable Heroes, And Justice For All, Battery, Damage Inc., Eye Of The Beholder, Harvester Of Sorrow, etc., etc., etc.

I could go on and on about how else A7x pale in comparison to Metallica in everyway, but I really don't have the time to be sitting here for 8 hours at a time on the computer (unless I'm playing WoW. Then I do).

[Spiner202]

Let me add onto that...

The fact that Metallica got as popular as they did, while it can be viewed as a bad thing, look at it as a good thing. They are the most popular heavy metal band out there and brought thousands of fans to the genre. Metallica was the band that got me into music. The first Metallica song I heard was Enter Sandman. It doesn't mean that I don't love their old stuff or new stuff, in fact I do love their old stuff. It also doesn't mean they sold out.

The point about sueing their own fans, look at it this way, their fans did something illegal, these guys being the great guys that they are tried to put a stop to that. Look at it this way, if you stole a brand new car from a dealership, and got sued by the car company that's fair right? Same thing. As for being more talented, we live in a time where guitarists get more and more talented, always trying to be better than the current guitarists, and while you could still say that they are more talented, there is no obvious showing in a difference of talent. Metallica and A7X actually make pretty different music and that's why it sounds different, as why you think A7X is more talented.

The final point I'm trying to get across to you, just because a band decides to change their style does not make them sellouts. Just because a band sues their fans for doing something illegal does not make them sellouts. Just because two bands sound different and both can play really fast blistering solos, does not make one more talented than the other (or what I'm really trying to say is: Metallica>A7X)

[WTF d00ds?]

I knew I forgot to mention something about them on the whole "sellout" factor. Thanks for that, Spiner. Ya know, the "that band got famous so we're gonna call them sellouts just because they did something different and are doing better for themselves so we're gonna act like we hate them now but still secretly like them" attitude comes from Thrash's punk roots. I really don't and never will understand why a band is considered a "sellout" band for becoming famous.

[Spiner202]

Actually, I think the reason he calls that being a "sellout" is because they decided to change their style as soon as they got popular. Which I see no problem with. Obviously, without Cliff, they couldn't go in the same direction. Cliff's influence was still around for Justice and it was just after that time that they began to change.

[WTF d00ds?]

Neither do I. For the most part, change is good, as it was with Metallica. Without them going in the direction they did, we'd never have songs like King Nothing or their cover of Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Tuesday's Gone". I don't enjoy their post Black album stuff as I do the pre-black album stuff, but I still like it. Apparantly they're going back to the style they used in the 80's on their next album, which I'm wholey excited about. I'd love to see more thrash epics along the lines of MoP, One, Battery, and Blackened from them. In my honest opinion, it's about damn time they went back to their roots.

[Civil Disobedient]

wow, theres a load of really bad bands being tossed around in this threadoasis, muse, artcic monkeys:confused:

[Simple]

I'm really just looking forward to the new Franz Ferdinand and Muse, although I may pick up Dragonforce as well.

[Majin]

Muse and Arctic Monkeys was very early last year. I think it's time to move on.

[The_virus]

So I'm really hoping a new Finch disc drops this year, even if it is similar to their last effort.

I hope they'd tap into the vibe they had with What It Is To Burn, but I would like to hear more from them regardless, as you said.

[Rahul]

Actually, I think the reason he calls that being a "sellout" is because they decided to change their style as soon as they got popular. Which I see no problem with. Obviously, without Cliff, they couldn't go in the same direction. Cliff's influence was still around for Justice and it was just after that time that they began to change.
I've lost you in terms of time frame here. I thought most people, myself included, believed that Metallica sold out when making albums such as Load, Reload and St. Anger. They sold out well after they became popular. The stance on the music downloading was a completely classless move. I'm a huge fan of Metallica, but there is no doubt in my mind that they totally gave up their style and became really greedy. Most is this is because of Lars, since he's a greedy pr!ck. This next album is absolutely crucial for how Metallica are looked upon. Maybe they just went too far with the experimenting, and it just didn't work out for them. If they continue going down that road, it'll be clear that they're just not the band they once were.Lets just hope they prove everyone wrong and come out with an ass kicking old school Metallica sound.

[Spiner202]

Well their style on the black album was definately like nothing before it. So their style progression began on the black album, fortunately for the fans that think they sold out, there was still some classic thrash (Through the Never, Holier than Thou, ect) that they liked, but it's obvious to me that the black album marked the beginning of their style change. Load and Reload just took it to the next level.

How was their stance on downloading a classless move? Whether or not they did it for money, they did end up doing the right thing.

And finally, what proves to me that it was a style change, and them not trying to get rich (though I'm sure that may have been an incentive), do you know anybody who actually likes Load, Reload, and St.Anger more than the previous 5 albums? If not then why would they change their style? Money, or because they wanted to?

[AllThingsEqual]

How was their stance on downloading a classless move? Whether or not they did it for money, they did end up doing the right thing.
You know you can't really prove that downloading music is morally wrong, right? Plus it was quite obvious that they didn't tell people to stop downloading it for the music because if they did care about the music then I don't see what problem they could have with downloading music.

[IndianSummer]

I hope they'd tap into the vibe they had with What It Is To Burn, but I would like to hear more from them regardless, as you said.

I kinda like Say Hello to Sunshine. But either way new Finch would be awesome.

[Spiner202]

You know you can't really prove that downloading music is morally wrong, right? Plus it was quite obvious that they didn't tell people to stop downloading it for the music because if they did care about the music then I don't see what problem they could have with downloading music.
Look at it this way. Downloading music is stealing. Just because you are stealing from somebody rich doesn't mean it's right to steal. Then why wouldn't everybody just steal from wal-mart? I know that downloading music has to do with money, but it still is the wrong thing to do because it's STEALING from the artist. Metallica did the right thing, unlike most bands.

[AllThingsEqual]

Look at it this way. Downloading music is stealing. Just because you are stealing from somebody rich doesn't mean it's right to steal. Then why wouldn't everybody just steal from wal-mart? I know that downloading music has to do with money, but it still is the wrong thing to do because it's STEALING from the artist. Metallica did the right thing, unlike most bands.
What is being stolen? Not money because they didn't have the money in the first place. It isn't the music because they still technically have that. So again, tell me what is being stolen.

[Spiner202]

It is money being stolen, just because they don't have it yet doesn't mean that money isn't being stolen. If I borrow $5 from you and never pay you back, isn't that stealing? Same thing, Metallica should make some money for each album, but if 20,000 people download an album rather than buy it, then Metallica's money is being stolen.

[AllThingsEqual]

It is money being stolen, just because they don't have it yet doesn't mean that money isn't being stolen. If I borrow $5 from you and never pay you back, isn't that stealing? Same thing, Metallica should make some money for each album, but if 20,000 people download an album rather than buy it, then Metallica's money is being stolen.
@ Bold (taken from www.m-w.com:

Pronunciation:
\ˈstēl\
Function:
verb
Inflected Form(s):
stole Listen to the pronunciation of stole \ˈstōl\; sto·len Listen to the pronunciation of stolen \ˈstō-lən\; steal·ing
Etymology:
Middle English stelen, from Old English stelan; akin to Old High German stelan to steal
Date:
before 12th century

intransitive verb
1: to take the property of another wrongfully and especially as a habitual or regular practice
2: to come or go secretly, unobtrusively, gradually, or unexpectedly
3: to steal or attempt to steal
a basetransitive verb
1 a: to take or appropriate without right or leave and with intent to keep or make use of wrongfully <stole a car> b: to take away by force or unjust means <they've stolen our liberty> c: to take surreptitiously or without permission <steal a kiss> d: to appropriate to oneself or beyond one's proper share : make oneself the focus of <steal the show>
2 a: to move, convey, or introduce secretly : smuggle b: to accomplish in a concealed or unobserved manner <steal a visit>
3 a: to seize, gain, or win by trickery, skill, or daring <a basketball player adept at stealing the ball> <stole the election> bof a base runner : to reach (a base) safely solely by running and usually catching the opposing team off guard
The bold things make your argument invalid. The money would not be theirs until the record is bought. You could say that theoretically the money would most likely become theirs, but using logic, it is not until I put it in their hands. Otherwise, they would be stealing my money.

Second of all the analogy does not apply here. You are saying that you are borrowing something from the owner, but is that really what filesharing is?

Filesharing's analogy could best be explained as someone who owns a painting letting you copy it down on a piece of paper so you may hang it on your fridge.

[Spiner202]

Ok, so they don't have the money yet, but if you download their songs, you are getting their product for free, essentially taking money that should be theirs. So while they may not have gotten the money, that are missing thousands of dollars that should be theirs.

Second of all the analogy does not apply here. You are saying that you are borrowing something from the owner, but is that really what filesharing is?

What you are doing is taking something from the owner and using the product as often as you want, when it is something which you legally must pay for. Hence why filesharing is illegal.

May I ask why you are supporting downloading music? You know it's illegal and Metallica is being cheated out of money, so they are trying to get that money back.

[IndianSummer]

Can I just pay Metallica a penny a piece then?

[Spiner202]

You can pay Metallica full price for their albums. Oh wait, that's what you are supposed to do for every band, it just got completely blown up because Metallica are extremely popular and chose to change their style...life makes so much more sense now.

[IndianSummer]

You obviously don't understand the economics of the music industry. So until then, you really need to stop talking.

If Metallica wants me to buy their music, they need to make a good album, simple as that. Its too expensive for me to buy albums without hearing the songs first. So maybe Metallica should think about restructuring how much they'll charge for albums. Oh wait. That's the record labels that set the price which brings me back to square 1.

[Spiner202]

I understand that. But it does not mean that if they don't put out an album worth your money, then you should download it. If you don't want to pay for it, you should not be allowed to listen to it.

[Rahul]

Do you remember how many other bans happened to have the same stance as Metallica? Not very many. Most bands believed that it was more important that their music was becoming popular over the internet. Filesharing has helped out a lot of small bands make their music popular.

[Spiner202]

Metallica was popular before the internet. They have no need to become more popular, stopping filesharing is more important then becoming popular to them.

[WTF d00ds?]

Look at it this way. Downloading music is stealing. Just because you are stealing from somebody rich doesn't mean it's right to steal. Then why wouldn't everybody just steal from wal-mart? I know that downloading music has to do with money, but it still is the wrong thing to do because it's STEALING from the artist. Metallica did the right thing, unlike most bands

I don't know of anyone who doesn't steal from Wal-mart.

[Spiner202]

Then you know of a lot of bad people. I don't know of anybody that steals anything (other than downloading music unfortunetly).

[Powerslave]

thread closed, irreversably off topic.