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$ean
December 17th, 2007, 11:49 AM
I want to know some good natures and move sets for this all fire team. EV's and IV's aren't necessary, as I will take care of those myself. For now I'm going to put there current movesets, and you can change them as necessary.

Typhlosion@???
Brave Nature

Thuderpunch
Aerial Ace
Flame Wheel
Flamethrower

Infernape@Charcoal
Naive Nature

Flame Wheel
Ember
Close Combat
Flare Blitz

Magmar@???
Naughty Nature

Smog
Faint Attack
Fire Punch
ThunderPunch

Flareon@???
Modest Nature

Tackle
Ember
Tail Whip
Helping Hand

Houndoom@???
??? Nature

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Arcanine@???
???Nature

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I'm waiting on getting the Houndoom and Arcanine. The only Pokemon in the list I think has a good nature is Flareon. The other ones need new natures. And I know that the move sets are garbage at this point, hence why I'm posting. So please make changes so I know what to do with these guys.

Skittleman
December 17th, 2007, 11:59 AM
I don't have time for the movesets right now, but what I do have time to say is I strongly recommend against Flareon. He has a great attack stat, but cannot adequately take advantage of it. Despite 4x weaknesses, I would try Charizard, Moltres, or Heatran in its place.

$ean
December 17th, 2007, 01:05 PM
The Pokemon I was thinking of using in it's place was Torkoal. I already have one with a half way decent moveset.

Torkoal@???
Relaxed Nature

Flamethrower
Fire Spin
Body Slam
Amnesia

Chris!
December 17th, 2007, 02:23 PM
I want to know some good natures and move sets for this all fire team. EV's and IV's aren't necessary, as I will take care of those myself. For now I'm going to put there current movesets, and you can change them as necessary.

Typhlosion@???
Brave Nature

Thuderpunch
Aerial Ace
Flame Wheel
Flamethrower

Typhlosion's Special Attack is much better than it's physical. Leading a Choice Scarf Eruption is a brilliant strategy.

Infernape@Charcoal
Naive Nature

Flame Wheel
Ember
Close Combat
Flare Blitz

Number one rule ever about pokémon: Almost always run only one move per type. Drop Flame Wheel and Ember, what will you be using them on? Put on Stone Edge or Thunderpunch and Swords Dance, or run the Mixape set.


Magmar@???
Naughty Nature

Smog
Faint Attack
Fire Punch
ThunderPunch

Magmar < Magmortar. Smog is frowned upon competitively.

Flareon@???
Modest Nature

Tackle
Ember
Tail Whip
Helping Hand

Uh, no. Run Moltres or BellyZard here.

Houndoom@???
??? Nature

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Plot sweeper can work.
Arcanine@???
???Nature

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If you need yet another physical sweeper Arcanine's your guy.

I'm waiting on getting the Houndoom and Arcanine. The only Pokemon in the list I think has a good nature is Flareon. The other ones need new natures. And I know that the move sets are garbage at this point, hence why I'm posting. So please make changes so I know what to do with these guys.

ht

Shur'tugal
December 17th, 2007, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by $ean


Typhlosion@???->Choice Scarf LEAD WITH THIS
Brave Nature->Timid nature

Thuderpunch->Eruption
Aerial Ace->Flamethrower
Flame Wheel->HP Grass
Flamethrower->Focus Blast

EVs: 252sp att 252speed 4HP

Infernape@Charcoal->Expert Belt
Naive Nature->Jolly nature

Flame Wheel->Flare Blitz/Fire Punch
Ember->Thunder Punch/Stone Edge/Shadow Claw
Close Combat
Flare Blitz->Earthquake

EVs: 252att 252speed 4HP

Magmar@???
Naughty Nature

Smog->Flame Thrower
Faint Attack->Thunder Bolt
Fire Punch->Toxic/Sunny Day
ThunderPunch->Solar Beam[if using sunny day]/Focus Blast


Flareon@???
Modest Nature

Tackle
Ember
Tail Whip
Helping Hand

Replace with Bellyzard.

Charzard@?
Adamant nature

Belly Drum
Flare Blitz
Dragon Claw
Earthquake/Shadow Claw

Houndoom@???
??? Nature->Modest nature

Flamethrower
Shadow Ball
Sludge Bomb
Dark Pulse

EVs: 252sp att 252speed 4HP?

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Arcanine@???
???Nature->Adamant nature

Thunder Fang
Fire Fang
Extreme Speed
Crunch
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I'm waiting on getting the Houndoom and Arcanine. The only Pokemon in the list I think has a good nature is Flareon. The other ones need new natures. And I know that the move sets are garbage at this point, hence why I'm posting. So please make changes so I know what to do with these guys.

Changes in Bold.

$ean
December 17th, 2007, 04:07 PM
I think I have a team set up:

Infernape@Life Orb
Naive Nature
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-Nasty Plot
-Grass Knot

Arcanine@Choice Band
Adamant Nature
-Flare Blitz
-Extreme Speed
-Crunch
-Thunder Fang

Houndoom@Choice Specs
Timid Nature
-Overheat
-Dark Pulse
-Nasty Plot
-Thunder Fang

Torkoal@Leftovers
Bold Nature
-Lava Plume
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Rapid Spin

Charizard@Salac Berry
Adamant Nature
-Belly Drum
-Fire Fang
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake

Magmortar@Expert Belt
Hasty Nature
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt
-Cross Chop
-Will-O-Wisp

Torkoal is my wall because of it's crazy defense, and it replaced Typhlosion because I have enough sweepers on this team.

Pencil Thief
December 17th, 2007, 05:27 PM
I think I have a team set up:

Infernape@Life Orb
Naive Nature
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-Nasty Plot
-Grass Knot

Arcanine@Choice Band
Adamant Nature
-Flare Blitz
-Extreme Speed
-Crunch
-Thunder Fang

Houndoom@Choice Specs
Timid Nature
-Overheat/Flamethrower
-Dark Pulse
-Sludge Bomb
-Hidden Power Electric
Nasty Plot isn't going to do you much good if you're using Choice Specs

Torkoal@Leftovers
Bold Nature
-Lava Plume
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Rapid Spin

Charizard@Leftovers
Adamant Nature
-Belly Drum
-Fire Fang
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake

Magmortar@Expert Belt
Hasty Nature
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt
-Cross Chop
-Will-O-Wisp

Torkoal is my wall because of it's crazy defense, and it replaced Typhlosion because I have enough sweepers on this team.

Changes in bold.

I hope that helped.

pokemon-12
December 18th, 2007, 12:32 AM
You should give INfernape a Modest or Timid nature.