Disturbed

[DemonHunter15]

hey there, DH15 here.

I was wondering if there were any disturbed fans out there, im a huge fan of Disturbed and my fav song by them currently is Dehumanized.:D

[Nicholas]

Disturbed is great in my opinion. My favorite song is Down with the Sickness.

[Meathos]

I liked Disturbed when I was like 13, before I knew what real metal was.

They're alright. I dunno. Not that great, really. Kinda cliche, untalented. They sound good, sometimes, but they are not good. At least not talented.

Friend of mine called them the Celine Dion of metal.

[ATRLOGfan]

Come on, you can't really call them untalented, because if they were, they really wouldn't be where they are now. Granted they're nowhere near the best metal band, but they're still pretty good. In fact, they're probably in my top 5 favorite bands list. Just because they aren't Iron Maiden quality doesn't mean they're not good, Neil.

[Spiner202]

Hmm, well I got 10,000 fists from my brother and the first 5 songs were great, the rest was sort of disappointing. I bought the album Believe, and I've only listened to the first few songs, but so far it is pretty disappointing. However I do really like what they do, so they're not good, but not bad.

[The JoZ]

To call them untalented is stupid. Dave Draiman has some of the most unique vocals in hard rock/metal today. Note that isn't me saying 'the best', because I wouldn't consider him the best of anything. But name one other guy who sounds like him. You won't be able to.

A lot of people were real quick to just lump them in with the 'nu metal' crowd with The Sickness. Believe didn't completely distance themselves from that crowd, but cuts like "Remember" and "Darkness" stood out for being different, and really very good.

However, when Ten Thousand Fists came out, I have to say I am very firmly ready to place them in the "metal" group. They have lots of ass-kicking riffs, powerful song structures, and aren't afraid to dabble in off-time signatures as well (check out "I'm Alive", which arguably has some of Draiman's best vocal work to date).

I would certainly call them one of the best mainstream metal bands today. In the same echelon as, say, Maiden, Dream Theater, Soilwork, etc? No, not even close. But as far as bands that are mainstream, Disturbed has more than enough talent and enough great sounding songs to certainly call them the best in that category.

[DemonHunter15]

Ten Thousand Fists was an ok album, i liked Believe alot more, but on their site it says they just put the finishing touches on their newalbum "Indestructable" i just wonder if their gonna do more political stuff or go back to their stuff similar to their older albums (Believe, and The Sickness)

[SSJ2 Vegeta]

Their first album is tolerable and alright, at best. Other than that, they bring teh fail.

[ATRLOGfan]

If you go on ultimate-guitar.com and look around at other sites (myspace, their official site, etc.), they've said they're going for a much darker, heavier sound this time around. With how popular the various sub-genres of death metal are becoming nowadays, I'd expect them to do something along those lines. It'd be farking nuts to hear a death metal influenced Disturbed album.

[SSJ2 Vegeta]

If you go on ultimate-guitar.com and look around at other sites (myspace, their official site, etc.), they've said they're going for a much darker, heavier sound this time around. With how popular the various sub-genres of death metal are becoming nowadays, I'd expect them to do something along those lines. It'd be farking nuts to hear a death metal influenced Disturbed album.

Just because you incorporate double bass into your drumming doesn't make you death metal.

[mr.rpg king]

Aw sweet, generic Nu Metal. I like Striken, Voices, Stupified and Down With The Sickness and that's it. All the rest of Disturbeds music does not in one way appeal to me. And the lead singers voice, unqiue as it is, annoys me. It sounds like he's talking to me through a high-speed modem.

Edit: Disturbed will never be death metal. They cannot even touch BTBAM or Horse or Job for a Cowboy (Who are technically freak-out). Good day to you.

[SSJ2 Vegeta]

Aw sweet, generic Nu Metal. I like Striken, Voices, Stupified and Down With The Sickness and that's it. All the rest of Disturbeds music does not in one way appeal to me. And the lead singers voice, unqiue as it is, annoys me. It sounds like he's talking to me through a high-speed modem.

Edit: Disturbed will never be death metal. They cannot even touch BTBAM or Horse or Job for a Cowboy (Who are technically freak-out). Good day to you.

*Tries to imagine Disturbed trying to sound like Carcass, Cryptopsy, Frightmare, TBDM, TRC, Skinless, Misery Index, CxDx, Ghoul, Ceph Carn, etc*

Not happening.

[The JoZ]

No, they won't be death metal and that'll be a good thing.

They'll actually have some substance.

Yeah, I went there.

[SSJ2 Vegeta]

No, they won't be death metal and that'll be a good thing.

They'll actually have some substance.

Yeah, I went there.

Pffft, you fail for two reason. Saying death metal doesn't have substance which is completely not true and ignorant, and saying that Disturbed does/will have substance, which is completely not true.

[The JoZ]

Pffft, you fail for two reason. Saying death metal doesn't have substance which is completely not true and ignorant, and saying that Disturbed does/will have substance, which is completely not true.

1) I realize that not every death metal band is a bunch of crap, but anyone who considers:

*A drumline of nothing but blastbeats
*A guitar line of nothing but tremelo picking/shredding
*An inaudible bassline
*A vocalist who sounds like he's purging his lunch instead of saying words

as music with "substance", then they/you need to completely redefine your definition of "substance". I like my brutality, but I don't like it to be completely incomprehensible as so many death metal bands feel the need to be.

2) Again, I don't think Disturbed is anywhere near the upper echelon of any band, but their newest album has, as far as I am concerned, far more substance than anything ever put out by, say, Cannibal Corpse.

[SSJ2 Vegeta]

1) I realize that not every death metal band is a bunch of crap, but anyone who considers:

*A drumline of nothing but blastbeats
*A guitar line of nothing but tremelo picking/shredding
*An inaudible bassline
*A vocalist who sounds like he's purging his lunch instead of saying words

as music with "substance", then they/you need to completely redefine your definition of "substance". I like my brutality, but I don't like it to be completely incomprehensible as so many death metal bands feel the need to be.

2) Again, I don't think Disturbed is anywhere near the upper echelon of any band, but their newest album has, as far as I am concerned, far more substance than anything ever put out by, say, Cannibal Corpse.

Cannibal Corpse are horrid, though.

[The JoZ]

Cannibal Corpse are horrid, though.

Well good, then you and I agree on at least one thing :^:

[ATRLOGfan]

Holy crap, I didn't know my one tiny speculation would cause so many panties to get lodged deep within the anuses of their owners. I didn't say that they would become death metal, I said they might do something along those lines. They'll probably incorporate some elements of it since it's gaining popularity at a massive rate nowadays, but they'll never be full blown death metal. They wouldn't be Disturbed anymore if they did.

And what's with so much of the hatred towards Disturbed? They are good and they are talented. They wouldn't be where they are if they weren't. But that certainly doesn't mean they're anywhere near the best either. I like them and they are one of my favorite bands. That doesn't mean I consider them to be the pinnacle of anything. They have a unique sound with a very unique singer, and that's what makes them good and why I like them. They'll never be Iron Maiden, Led Zepplin, Metallica, Megadeth, etc. quality, but they are good.

[SSJ2 Vegeta]

Holy crap, I didn't know my one tiny speculation would cause so many panties to get lodged deep within the anuses of their owners. I didn't say that they would become death metal, I said they might do something along those lines. They'll probably incorporate some elements of it since it's gaining popularity at a massive rate nowadays, but they'll never be full blown death metal. They wouldn't be Disturbed anymore if they did.

Somebody just grew a pair of e-balls.

And what's with so much of the hatred towards Disturbed? They are good and they are talented. They wouldn't be where they are if they weren't.

And where are they exactly? So...Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, Nick Lache (sp?), Ashlee Simpson, Avril Lavigne, etc. are all really good and talented? Because they're quite popular.

[mr.rpg king]

1) I realize that not every death metal band is a bunch of crap, but anyone who considers:

*A drumline of nothing but blastbeats
*A guitar line of nothing but tremelo picking/shredding
*An inaudible bassline
*A vocalist who sounds like he's purging his lunch instead of saying words

as music with "substance", then they/you need to completely redefine your definition of "substance". I like my brutality, but I don't like it to be completely incomprehensible as so many death metal bands feel the need to be.

2) Again, I don't think Disturbed is anywhere near the upper echelon of any band, but their newest album has, as far as I am concerned, far more substance than anything ever put out by, say, Cannibal Corpse.

Someones ignorance stems from the fact he's never heard Sex Raptor, Mordecai or Selkies. The new BTBAM CD transfers so well from song to song it's easily one of the most incredible things I've ever heard.

[Noise]

Listen to The Sickness. Then Listen to Believe. Then listen to 10,000 Fists. ...They're all the same exact f*cking album.

Dave Draiman does have some of the most unique vocals in hard rock/metal today. ...It's just too bad that unique doesn't go synonymously with good.

[ATRLOGfan]

^ must be tone deaf, because if you bothered to get the wax out of your ears and actually listen to the albums without your preconceived notions of popular=crap, then you might actually be able to tell the difference between the 3.

[Flip-Hkd]

I like Voices and Stupify once in a while.

[.Killswitch.]

Don't like them at all. Every one of thier songs sounds exactly the same to me.

[ATRLOGfan]

As do Killswitch engage's do to me, but I still like them. Yeah. I went there.

[The JoZ]

Someones ignorance stems from the fact he's never heard Sex Raptor, Mordecai or Selkies. The new BTBAM CD transfers so well from song to song it's easily one of the most incredible things I've ever heard.

I have seen BTBAM live in concert and I would not call them death metal by a long shot.

Listen to The Sickness. Then Listen to Believe. Then listen to 10,000 Fists. ...They're all the same exact f*cking album.

If you're counting the times Draiman does that weird howling thing he does (the thing used prominently in 'Down with the Sickness') then yes, you'd be right.

If you've only heard one or two songs on any of the albums, then you have no basis for comparison. While there is certainly some similarity between the first two albums, in general, 10k Fists takes several big steps forward.

[Cody.]

Meh, only several of Disturbed's songs interest me. The rest are boring. I mostly like "Down with the Sickness", "10,000 fists" and "Land of Confusion".

[Noise]

If you've only heard one or two songs on any of the albums, then you have no basis for comparison. While there is certainly some similarity between the first two albums, in general, 10k Fists takes several big steps forward.I have all three albums.

[DemonHunter15]

I have all three albums.

as do i, and i dont think EVERY SONG sounds the same, some of the songs have the same pitch in vocals like Bound and Overburdened, but thats where the simularities end for me.

[Meathos]

Man, all of Disturbed songs sound drab and the same to me. Sure, some of them have ass-kicking riffs, but those are called their singles.

The singer does have a good sound. I do like him. A lot. But, as someone said, that doesn't make the band good.

They have a decent sound. Like, they can make stuff sound good, for the most part. But, in my opinion, they are untalented. No, I'm not just talkign about them being mediocre at their instruments. They've been around for a while, and they havn't progressed much. Three albums in almost 7 years ish should give them loads of time to comprise good material and become damn good at what they do.

I'll admit 10 000 Fists was a better album than the first two, but that doesn't mean sh!t. They're a band, and getting better over time is what's supposed to happen.

Like I said, they're okay. I never said they were bad, and I don't think anyone else has. They're just okay. Not great. I said they were untalented, and I mean it. I dont say that because they'r enot Iron Maiden. I say that because they fail to show diversity from album to album, nevermind song to song.

[The JoZ]

I have all three albums.

Then why the hell:

1) Are you trying to make the case that they are a bad band?

or

2) Do you own all three albums if they are such a bad band?

[DemonHunter15]

Then why the hell:

1) Are you trying to make the case that they are a bad band?

or

2) Do you own all three albums if they are such a bad band?

2 very good questions:D

[Noise]

Then why the hell:

1) Are you trying to make the case that they are a bad band?

or

2) Do you own all three albums if they are such a bad band?So you don't have a single album that pretty much justs sits around collecting dust? You're a liar if you say otherwise.

But to answer your question...

Everyone went through a stage where they listened to music that they'd rather never ever bring up. Back when The Sickness came out I was in that stage where all I listened to were bands like Manson, NIN, Disturbed, Korn, etc. When Believe came out, I was just coming out of that stage. I bought 10,000 Fists out of nostalgia, which has long since worn off.

I never said they were a terrible band. Don't put words in my mouth. They're pretty much as overrated as any band to hit mainstream today. The point that all their songs sound the same... many of them do... but my point was that all three albums do.

Edit: toned it down a bit.

[Spiner202]

all I listened to were bands like Manson, NIN, Disturbed, Korn, etc
Why? Are you mad? What has the world come to so that people actually listen to Manson?

On topic though, 10,000 Fists is a much much better album than Believe (don't have the other) but I can't see how people don't think it sounds similar. However it sounds different enough that it is possible with this band to like one song and not like another. I don't really like too many of their songs but some of them are good. They just all sound really similar.

[Flip-Hkd]

Why? Are you mad? What has the world come to so that people actually listen to Manson?

On topic though, 10,000 Fists is a much much better album than Believe (don't have the other) but I can't see how people don't think it sounds similar. However it sounds different enough that it is possible with this band to like one song and not like another. I don't really like too many of their songs but some of them are good. They just all sound really similar.


Musical knowledge or interest could have to do with this, someone who plays an instrument and has a descent amount of experience doing it probably hears the song from a very different perspective than someone who doesn't play an instrument.

A musician will most likely hear the riffs piece by piece and pay attention more rather than someone who just listens to it

[Spiner202]

I play guitar. I understand the riffs are different, but the music when it's all put together sounds different.

[Flip-Hkd]

Well since you play guitar that most likely makes you hear the similarities and patterns between riffs and songs and what not, which is probably why you think the albums sound the same. Cause you can read the song instead of only listening.

[Spiner202]

I meant to say it all sounds the same, not different.

[ATRLOGfan]

I guess we'll have to wait until their next album drops next year to see just how they've progressed and bettered themselves.

[Flip-Hkd]

I meant to say it all sounds the same, not different.

It could go either way

[Bolt Thrower]

I saw Disturbed a couple of years back and it stands today as the best live show I've ever seen. I've seen Zombie and Static and Saliva and ZZ Top and all these other bands, and none of them can truly stand up to the raw power and excellence that comes with the Disturbed package.

And I think most people can agree that their material live is just off the hook, like, I went to a local show not too long ago and this band played "Down with the Sickness" and it was mostly emo kids there, but I swear to God that was the best mosh that little music hall had ever experienced in all the years I'd been going.

I love the music. I love the power. Those guys got the goods.

[mr.rpg king]

I saw Disturbed a couple of years back and it stands today as the best live show I've ever seen. I've seen Zombie and Static and Saliva and ZZ Top and all these other bands, and none of them can truly stand up to the raw power and excellence that comes with the Disturbed package.

And I think most people can agree that their material live is just off the hook, like, I went to a local show not too long ago and this band played "Down with the Sickness" and it was mostly emo kids there, but I swear to God that was the best mosh that little music hall had ever experienced in all the years I'd been going.

I love the music. I love the power. Those guys got the goods.

Then you obviously should have saw Between the Buried & Me in Chicago. Silly fool :D.

[Two Angels And A Dream]

Disturbed survived the downfall of Nu-Metal and came out to sound better, but that's not to say the Sickness and Believe are not good albums. Granted no band can produce an album of all amazing songs (bar Machine head) but Disturbed still produce a good variety of songs on their albums.

10,000 Fists is a damn good album and songs like Ten Thousand Fists, Sons of Plunder (Which I love listening to when watching a Pop Idol/X-factor montage :D), Deify & Pain Redefined are examples of listenable music, which many forms of Metal are not.

Live they put on a great show with David Draiman getting the crowd going and during some of the songs, specifically Down With The Sickness; the Mosh Pit rivalled heavier bands I have seen. Also before anyone says it the majority of the crowd were not young people as you had to be over 18 to see the band.

Personally I can't wait for Indestructible to come out and I'm gpoing to be preordering my copy and booking my tickets for the tour asap!

[Mrmakee]

I don't really care what people say, I like Disturbed. Some people are gonna like them, some aren't. Don't come and complain about them if you think all their songs sound the same. If you think that, think that and don't complain about it. Different kinds of music appeal to different people.

Disturbed can appeal to a lot of people. My friend who listens to hip hop and all that stuff likes disturbed. A good band does their own thing. They make their own sound and don't worry about what people think. Disturbed are doing their own thing and they are appealing to people and making some good music. That should be all that matters. If you don't like them, don't listen to them, don't worry about them.

[mr.rpg king]

If you think that, think that and don't complain about it. Different kinds of music appeal to different people.



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[RockstarHitman]

I've liked them from the begining. I have always thought they came out with some pretty cool stuff. Got all their stuff and I must say they :rock:

[ATRLOGfan]

I wanted to see them at Ozzfest a couple years ago when Dragonforce were also playing there, but I waited too long and the tickets got too expensive. I've seen a multitude of bands with some of the greatest live shows out there (Korn was the best I ever saw live. I also saw A7x, Operator, Black Tide, Lamb of God, Nile, RHCP, and Ozzy all within the last 2 years), but I've been told that Disturbed have one of the best live shows ever, and have been itching to go see them. But yes, they definitely do roxorz teh soxorz.

[RockstarHitman]

Yeah, I saw Ozzy with Rob Zombie and In This Moment back in November. It was a great show, but the sound was a little "muddy" if you know what I mean. (Indoor show). If I get a chance I'd really like to go see Disturbed when they come back out this way.