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Shur'tugal
December 8th, 2007, 05:27 PM
I can't beleive I'm posting another team help thread.

With my team I have 3 questions. They are at the bottom of the post.


Infernape@Expert Belt
Jolly nature

Flare Blitz
Thunder Punch
Close Combat
Earthquake

EVs: 252att 252speed 4HP


Dragonite@Lum Berry
Jolly nature

Outrage
Fire Punch
Dragon Dance
Earthquake

EVs: 252att 252speed 4HP


Weavile@Expert Belt
Jolly nature

Ice Punch
Night Slash
Brick Break
X-Scissor

EVs: 252att 252speed 4HP


Cresselia@Leftovers
Relaxed nature

Charge Beam
Ice Beam
Toxic
Moonlight


EVs: 248HP 116sp def 116def 24sp att



Kingdra@Damp Rock
Modest nature

Surf
Ice Beam
Dragon Pulse
Rain Dance

EVs: 252sp att 158speed 58HP 16def 16sp def


Electivre@Expert Belt
Adamant nature

Ice Punch
Cross Chop
Earthquake
Thunder Punch

EVs: 252att 252speed 4HP


1. Should I replace Weavile and Cress for Blissey and Skarmory?

Cress is a great mixed wall and special sweeper. On the other hand Skarm and Bliss are great stealth rock and spike layers and skarm can learn Whirlwind.

2. If I keep Cress because my team has only 2 special sweepers and one is a wall should I replace Weavile for a special sweeper or just make Infernape a mixed sweeper?

Infernape@Expert Belt
*need nature*

Flame Thrower
Grass Knot
Close Combat
Earthquake

EVs: *need help*

If not a mixed Infernape then I need a good special sweeper. I was thinking Alakazam.

What other special sweeper would go well with this team?

pokemon-12
December 8th, 2007, 06:47 PM
I think you should change Weavile for a special attacker. Alakazam would do.

Shur'tugal
December 9th, 2007, 12:26 AM
I'll go with Alakazam. Is this a good one?


Alakazam@Leftovers?
Bold nature

Psychic
Energy Ball
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball/Charge Beam

EVs: 240sp att 116def 116sp def 16speed


Bold nature because Alakazam has crappy defences.

Should I use Charge Beam for Skarmory?

gymclasshero66
December 9th, 2007, 01:58 AM
NO! Dont go with alakazam dude. It will not serve you much good. A bold nature will do no good for its horid defence. Its speed is good but not enough to take out someone like weavile or a choice scarfer. Plus, if you faced a tyranitar or weavile with this alakazam, youd expect to kill it w/ focus blast because you would obviously use a FOCUS SASH on it so it would survive one hit. I'll tell you this with experience, focus blast is a horrible move to rely on. For me, it almost always misses. So, even though you get a move off on a weavile, it may not hit (or the weavile may have a focus sash) and then you are screwed (even if you switch out. What the use of a 1HP alakazam??). Bottom line: there are much better sp. sweepers out there. Try houndoom. Its a good type for your team. (also, if you didnt get the hint, alakazam + focus sash = your only choice)

houndoom@focus sash
modest nature
-flamethrower
-dark pulse
-sunny day
-solarbeam
252 sp. attack, 252 speed, 4 HP

Shur'tugal
December 9th, 2007, 05:56 AM
1. Focus Sash does not always work.

2. I don't need another fire type.

3. What is I use this Alakazam?

Alakazam@*need item*
Modest nature

Psychic
Energy Ball
Charge Beam
Shadow Ball

EVs: 252sp att 252speed 4HP

Pencil Thief
December 9th, 2007, 09:27 AM
Focus Sash always works if it is a move that would normally kill you in one hit.

Example:

Your Weavile has all of its HP, let's say, 400.
A Mankey comes in and uses Brick Break. The move would normally take away all 400 of your HP, but since you're using a focus sash, your Weavile will be left with 1 HP.

Also, I like your team as it is.

Shur'tugal
December 9th, 2007, 03:35 PM
So if I come across a Skarmory should I just use Cress to finish it off?

Bulbasaurus Rex
December 9th, 2007, 05:03 PM
However, if you're damaged by Spikes or Stealth Rock, you won't have full HP, and Focus Sash won't work.

Still, Focus Sash does always work when you have full HP and is a good item for some Pokémon.

Pencil Thief
December 9th, 2007, 06:11 PM
You won't be damaged by Stealth Rock/Spikes if Weavile is your lead-off, which I'm pretty sure he is in Shur'tugal's case.

Shur'tugal
December 10th, 2007, 12:41 AM
Actually Electivre is my lead. Should I lead with Weavile?


If I come across a Skarmory or another physical wall should I use Cress or Kingdra or get Alakazam?

{if i get Alakazam Weavile is going}