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Donpaulo Inc.
December 4th, 2007, 11:33 AM
Who do you rate higher on ability the Divas of WWE or the Knockouts of TNA? and why not throw in your thoughts of whos hotter

TD, Jr.
December 4th, 2007, 11:40 AM
I've got to go for the Knockouts on this one.

As far as my favorties:

Knockouts: Roxxi, ODB and Gail

Divas: Beth Phoenix and Mickie James

Soda Shop Hero
December 4th, 2007, 01:36 PM
I hated watching the chat rooms during the Knockout Match this past sunday. Its like no matter if you are a TNA Fan or a WWE Fan (thanks to WWE probably) you just dont care about women wrestlers. There was a few people in this chat that was all negative about women saying they suck and they dont do anything exciting and blah blah blah cry cry cry but you had a few people that were saying how much better the knockouts were and of course you had some people who said how much the Divas are.

On an honest scale...on paper. When you look at the years wrestling for each Diva and each Knockout you will see that these women have been around wrestling a long time its just you just now hear about them so if you dont know then you think Mickie James started wrestling two-three years ago when really she has been wrestling since 1999.

WWE Roster has great women wrestlers. TNA has great women wrestlers. When it comes to who they are I say its about even to be honest but when it comes to how they wrestle and the show they put on for the crowd. That has to go to the TNA Knockouts.

Also, aside from Mickie and Beth and Jillian...WWE brings in "models" to become wrestlers they do this so the women can be homegrown. But in TNA much like they do with the male wrestlers where you have guys coming in from ROH or Japan...same thing with the women. These women are coming in from all over the place and they have history in wrestling some in the WWE some in WCW some in ROH and Angel Williams is the best simply because she has managed a lot of great wrestlers as well as been in a lot of companys. Also TNA has taken in a few women such as Christy and made her better than she was in WWE and they are certainly using Gail better than the WWE ever did.

I am waiting for TNA to get Lacey shes from ROH of course and was apart of the whole WSX so I wouldnt be surprised if she showed up eventually in TNA as a manager or wrestler either way. And the funny thing is Rain is still doing her Robert Roode bit in TNA so maybe Lacey can get in on this and The Minnesota Home-Wrecking Crew will run TNAs Tag Team Divisoin. And Im surprised WWE hasnt signed Becky Bayless.

When it comes to looks.

TNA: Rain, Tracy Brooks, Shelly, Talia Madison, Angel Williams and Christy.

WWE: Mickie James, Beth Phoenix, Maria, and Ashley Massaro.

Best Overall in TNA: Ms Brooks.

Best Overall in WWE: Mickie James.

I can't wait for Rain to get in the ring maybe she and Tracy will feud a very nice feud that is just based on wrestling and not the men around them. And let Traci show off why she is a J-Cup Womens Champion and show off her Ron Hutchison training.

Donpaulo Inc.
December 4th, 2007, 01:49 PM
Im shocked you think Ms Brooks is one of the hot ones, I mean I can think of 2 things that appeal, lol actually thats unfair she has a great body and lots of sex appeal but I just think she has quite masculine facial features

Soda Shop Hero
December 4th, 2007, 02:03 PM
A lot of people think that but if shes good enough for CM Punk shes good enough for the rest of us.

The thing is Tracy is an actual Female Wrestler. She isnt some skinny ass rib showing air headed prissy I dont wanna get hurt female wrestler. She has done stunt work as well as wrestled and trained with all types of wrestling styles.

If you want a good "Diva" or "Knockout" or whatever match you can't go wrong with wrestlers like Victoria, Beth Phoenix, Tracy Brooks. They will put on a good match and arent scared to please the fans with out having to take off their tops. Of course Vicky and Tracy both dress very sexual when they wrestle but they wrestle better and can do more moves than your average Maria or Kelly Kelly.

I mean we arent talking about Nicole Bass here or Asia or Chyna we are talking about a woman who is bigger than most girls but smaller than the muslced freaks.

I am not one of those guys that want a Paris Hilton or a Nicole Richie...I like a girl with some meat on her bones and I dont like blondes that much either. But if you consider a woman who works out, stays healthy and has meat on her bones manly...then whateva...

$ean
December 4th, 2007, 03:39 PM
I must say that ever since the Knockouts division arrived in TNA, I've started liking women's wrestling more. In WWE, they lost most of their best wrestlers in a short amount of time. Trish and Lita leaveing within months of each other really hurt the division, and now they have less star power.

So yeah, I much prefer TNA women's wrestling to WWE. If I had to rate on performance, it would go like this...

TNA (in no particular order): Gail Kim, ODB, Awesome Kong

WWE (again, no particular order): Mickie James, Beth Phoenix, Victoria

If I had to do it by looks...

TNA: Gail Kim, Karen Angle, Velvet Sky

WWE: Mickie James, Maria, Candice

Operative #19
December 4th, 2007, 03:45 PM
Before Beth Phoenix, I hated WWE Women's Wrestling. Beth Phoenix is probably my favorite woman's wrestler right now. And. although I didn't actually see it, apparently Amazing Kong destroyed the knockouts at the PPV. I think that's awesome. Oh yeah, I forgot about Roxxi. I've liked her ever since she debuted. The only good thing VKM has done is bring her in.

Dean
December 4th, 2007, 04:06 PM
I'm a TNA fanboy and I never really watch WWE women's wrestling, or WWE period, but I'll base this off who I know and what I have seen...

TNA: Talent: Gail Kim is probably in a league of her own. I'd say Awesome Kong is a great bully. ODB is pretty entertaining, but not exactly phenomenal in the ring. She can do some cool things, though. Jackie, when she wants to be, is really talented and can wrestle as well as the men, but she's aged quite a bit and isn't as good as she was 10 years ago. Oh, and Roxxi Laveaux is really good in the ring, too.

TNA: Looks: Gail Kim is again probably on top of this list. I'd add Velvet Sky and Angel Williams, and probably Rain (she's the "Robert Roode's Fan Club President" woman).

WWE: Talent: Beth Phoenix and Mickie James are the only two who I really see as being talented. Candice Michelle has come a long way, but she still has a long way to go...

WWE: Looks: Candice and Mickie, pretty much, are the main ones I find appealing. Ashley is pretty hot, I guess, but I don't even know if she's around anymore (I don't watch SD!).

Donpaulo Inc.
December 5th, 2007, 07:04 AM
Well we may be inline for WWEs best ever Diva match at Arageddon if they are given the time.

As for ODB I'm really shocked how over she is, the cheers for her on Impact and thenI can only assume that she wasnt at Turning point because I'm sure she would have been sent out after Sky and Love with crowd chanting like that.

Soda Shop Hero
December 5th, 2007, 01:29 PM
Yeah, the fans really wanted to see her against Kong but by storyline it wouldnt make sense because I would think Kong, ODB, Roxxi are Heels so to have ODB out there wouldnt of made good sense. Although, in the same right, I think it would of been cool if at the last second someone backstage wasl ike you hear this crowd? JB go tell ODB to get out there! lol. Give the fans what they want!

Funny thing is during the Chat people who were watching ODB come out to the ring during her entrance was like "This Gimmick isnt Believable" and "This Gimmick is Stupid" and its like have you never been to the South? Like...EVER? They are women like ODB all around these United States and probably more down in the south. But the thing about ODB, this was basically her gimmick in WWE/OVW....its just a little more over done here in TNA.

So, it makes you wonder if WWE does watch TNA if they are watching ODB and like we let that go? I am surprise that Trinity hasnt returned to TNA after that awful run in the WWE. A Perfect Exmple of a Wrestler not just a woman or a guy but a TNA Wrestler is promised a better life in WWE signs the contract and they get there...and WWE is like oh we we dont have anything for you. WWE could of kept Trinity and used her on Raw or Smackdown if they had nothing for her on ECW. But they didnt have anything for her and thus she was let go.

When that happen to Shannon Moore he was quoted as saying "He Punk'd TNA" but then he goes back to the WWE and they do nothing with him. Every now and then he gets in a good match but he doesnt win that much if at all. In TNA he could of been feuding with a lot of top indy guys and probably would of been an X Divison Champ by the end of the year. And knowing TNA they would of def. put Shannon in the tag team title race too.

Dean
December 5th, 2007, 02:06 PM
The TNA iMPACT! Zone crowd really likes the monsters. After wrestling like, two or three matches, Samoa Joe was pretty damn over. After a few matches, Awesome Kong got really over. After a few matches, ODB is over.

That's their style. They like the big guys/women who work stiff and have a mean personality.

Donpaulo Inc.
December 6th, 2007, 08:13 AM
WWE would never have let ODB go mainstream with a gimmick like that these days and the crowd would never have taken to her because she doesnt have glamour model looks, she would have been heel but I question if she ever would have gotten over.

Soda Shop Hero
December 6th, 2007, 03:18 PM
WWE would never have let ODB go mainstream with a gimmick like that these days and the crowd would never have taken to her because she doesnt have glamour model looks, she would have been heel but I question if she ever would have gotten over.
ODB would of been a perfect excuse for Beth Phoenix to eventually go Ultra Face.

But much like in TNA right now shes suppose to be a Heel but because of her whole drunk loud and crude gimmick the fans in the impact zone love her. Its kind of The Stone Cold Effect. He was suppose to be a heel but because he hated his boss and got drunk and was a redneck and most wrestling fans just happen to be labeled as rednecks...well Austin went over BIG time as a face.

ODB in the WWE to me probably would of went around scarying people. Like I could see her scarying off Maria or even pysching out Mickie just because Mickie is smaller than her and thus you have the whole against all odds for Mickie.

Mickie needs a good Against All Odds storyline....


Edit

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Former Extreme Expose member Brooke has publicly came out and said she has big plans to do a Playboy shoot and will be working in TNA Wrestling soon. Late last summer, plans were to have her Kelly Kelly, and Layla in Playboy right before WrestleMania. With Brooke being released these plans have obviously been scrapped.