College Football Discussion Thread (Split #3)

[Rahul]

Michigan is not gonn lose to Minnesota! I'll transfer if we do!

[Velocity]

Yeah if Michigan loses to Minnesota, the world would implode.

In addition, Kentucky is losing to Mississippi State. :rotfl:

[Insane man]

One more thing, I would like to be the first (and probably only) person to say that Kentucky wont lose another game this season, win the SEC East, and despite losing in the conference title to the LSU team they beat earlier in the season, still go to a major bowl game.



In addition, Kentucky lost to Mississippi State. :rotfl:
Fixed. Kentucky lost to Mississippi State and not just beaten but beaten badly 31-14. That's embarrassing if you are Kentucky. Also Minnesota is up 10-0.

[Rick52]

Michigan got its ass in gear, though. Up comfortably 34-10 near game's end.

Also USC lost to Oregon which isn't too surprising. Looks like the Pac-10 title is no longer in USC's grasp, with Oregon having the upper hand, and Arizona State and UCLA with no conference losses.

~Split~ (http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=550179)

[smashbro14]

And South Florida lost to UConn 22-15. I don't know if this means that USF is falling apart or UConn is for real... or both.

I give up on Maryland.

EDIT: Also, Georgia beat Florida. lolflorida.

[Velocity]

I was the only one that called Georgia too. :link: BOO-YAH Also, Miami won... oh wait, we had a bye. That counts. lol

[Requiem]

Hey now. I was pullin' for ole Georgia. Anyone else think that somethin' was fishy with the officials in that game?

[Big]

Now now, Mississippi State has done well this year.
I find it no surprise that KU was defeated.

[Rick52]

Isn't it the University of Kentucky (U of K?) KU is usually Kansas University, which threw me off for a second.

I picked Ohio State, BC, and Kansas, all undefeated, to lose this weekend, and it seems like all three of them are going to win. I chose Arizona State, also undefeated, to also win. Guess I know which way that's going... :-\

[Jangles]

Another interesting week of college football. What happened to Kentucky, anyway? I knew Miss State was a pretty good team this year, but wow.

Unfortunately, I completely missed the Michigan game, so I'm not too surprised at the final score. a little scary they were down 10-0 to Minnesota though...

[smashbro14]

You guys really need to see this. There was a miracle Cal/Stanford type play in DIII yesterday which can be watched here (http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3083220&categoryId=2564308). I think there were even more laterals than in Cal/Stanford, actually. It seems like the other team just stopped trying to tackle at the end of it.

[TheDukeOfBoston]

Wow, that announcer was annoying. That play was pretty crazy, you can tell it's D3 when
a. The defenders just gave up at the end and basically said "f*ck it"
b. The camera zooms in on all 30 fans cheering after the win.

That was something, though.

[JoetheShow]

haha, I have a friend at Millsaps. That was a great play until the end when the guy ran past everyone.

[Velocity]

Now that's what I call a play... hahaha That's awesome. Someone wanna count how many laterals there were?

[Mr. Mr]

Now that's what I call a play... hahaha That's awesome. Someone wanna count how many laterals there were?
ESPN did! They reported 15 laterals. That was a great play. I loved how all the defenders just stood there and looked at the ball as it hit the ground on that last lateral.

[~Shotgunnova~]

I've never seen laterals like that work before. That was amazing. Somehow after that last lateral hit the ground Curry was able to scoop it up and run all the way for the score. Talk about lack of hustle by the defense.

And why the hell was the anouncer yelling boo?

[Cyanide]

Looked like a pick-up game, everyone just screwing around and the defense standing there. Awesome video though

[coheed]

I've never seen laterals like that work before. That was amazing. Somehow after that last lateral hit the ground Curry was able to scoop it up and run all the way for the score. Talk about lack of hustle by the defense.

And why the hell was the anouncer yelling boo?
In division 3 football, I don't think they're as rigid about objectivity. :)

That play was freaking sweet.

[Freakish]

God I hate UCLA, how the **** can we beat Cal but not a ****ing easy team. I say next year our schedule looks like this

LSU
OSU
Cal
ASU
Oregon
USC
and a few other perennial top 25 teams. We'll make the championship game for sure

[Requiem]

Alabama v. LSU anyone?

I predict a close game, myself. I seriously doubt any high scores, really. Starts at 4:00pm Central.

[Rick52]

So I'm looking at the ESPN main page, and I see this score:

Nebraska 24, Kansas 48, Halftime.

What!? I'm now looking at FSN and it confirms that score. gfg Callahan

Also I'm rooting for 'bama in that game, but I don't think LSU will stumble today.

[Harris]

I've avoided picking Kansas all year, mostly because I'm positive the one time I do, they'll lose.

[Velocity]

Kansas up 69-31 over Nebraska. In football. ...it's the Apocalypse.

Also, check out this stat line for Kirby Freeman today.

1/14, 84 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT

Can you say "F*CKING PATHETIC"???? I mean DAMN. If your quarterback is doing that poorly... 1) What does it say about the coaching staff leaving him in? Or for that matter, having at least a SERVICEABLE quarterback? I mean for crying out loud, REX GROSSMAN is better than that! 2) PUT SOMEONE ELSE IN THE GAME! Kyle's injured, yeah, but there's still George Fernandez that stands on the sideline doing nothing! Do something with him for Chrissakes! 3) You could pull an Arkansas! Put Javarris, Graig, Derron and Darnell in the backfield and just let them run the option. We ran the ball down NCSU's throats today! Geez...

[coheed]

I never thought I'd say this . . . but as I watched Kansas score more points on my team than any team ever has, I didn't even feel surprised or dismayed. This season has been over since week 5. The players have given up on the coaches and given up on each other. The coaches have given up on the team. They knew the writing was on the wall when the AD who has been keeping them here was fired and now instead of trying to coach to win, they are spending all their time trying to negotiate more dollar signs for their buyout checks. Even though we have The Legend Himself Tom Osborne as the interim AD, he is a man of his word and won't fire any of the current staff until after the season. Which means we will get blown out again next week against Kansas State and then two weeks after that against Colorado.

Then finally they might fire the worst thing to ever happen to Nebraska football, Bill Callahan and his staff. I've never seen more apathy and more wasted talent in any one place (football or otherwise) in my life, and I highly doubt I ever will. This is a GOOD team. These are TALENTED players. But this coaching staff has no idea how to do . . . well, much of anything really. They recruit well. They do not develop talent. They do not coach to win. They actively SQUELCH passion and energy. They can not coach in a game. They can't adjust.

Sorry for all the smack I'm sure I talked about Nebraska before the year. We Husker fans have earned everything we're getting this season.

[Quagmire]

Wow...Neb sucks....not to take anything away from KU...they are having a great year, but to give up 70+ pts is horrible for a BCS conference team...who does Nebraska think they are, Notre Dame over the last three seasons?

[VINTAGE DEED]

Also, check out this stat line for Kirby Freeman today.

1/14, 84 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT

Can you say "F*CKING PATHETIC"???? I mean DAMN. If your quarterback is doing that poorly... 1) What does it say about the coaching staff leaving him in? Or for that matter, having at least a SERVICEABLE quarterback? I mean for crying out loud, REX GROSSMAN is better than that! 2) PUT SOMEONE ELSE IN THE GAME! Kyle's injured, yeah, but there's still George Fernandez that stands on the sideline doing nothing! Do something with him for Chrissakes! 3) You could pull an Arkansas! Put Javarris, Graig, Derron and Darnell in the backfield and just let them run the option. We ran the ball down NCSU's throats today! Geez...

Wow, this is sickening. I missed this game because I was at work, but I figured this would be an easy win. How the hell could this happen?!?!?! Against NC State, no less! The past few years have seen some horrible losses for the Canes, but this might take the cake. I really can't find the right words for this one.

As for the option, I'm not sure why they wouldn't do that. I know they did it early in the season, and it worked pretty good when I saw it. I like the idea of having an actual QB playing QB...but with a stat line like that, you HAVE to make a change. That's just unacceptable.

[Fire King]

Wow. Anyone see the Navy-Notre Dame game? I really think this is the Death Season for Notre Dame. I mean, they had won 43 straight against Navy previously. And they give this one up in triple overtime.

Coach of ND made a damn stupid call, though. Going for it on 4th down when you're in field goal range with a tie game and less than a minute to go is a bad idea.

[Velocity]

YES!! YES!! YES YES YES YES YES!! Navy wins! Holy sh*t Navy wins! What a GAME! Completely made my day.

Weis' postgame interview was one of the worst displays of "class" I've ever seen. He's such an arrogant ass. Never mind that you made possibly the stupidest call of your time at Notre Dame, the only reason Navy beat you was because they converted a 2-point conversion and your team didn't?

[Rick52]

Bad call aside, you gotta admit that sack on the fourth down was pretty badass.

[Dubber Rucky]

Michigan Wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh wait, I knew they were gonna win. Pretty good game though...the Michigan seniors can now say they have never lost to Michigan State. I'm so happy.

[Cyanide]

Mizzou is doing well, looks like they'll win, and KU, damn...

Also, go Navy! What a game.

[Velocity]

A day like today makes me proud to live in America so I can see this sport. What a slate of games this has been!

LSU-Alabama was amazing, Navy-Notre Dame was brilliant (Weis wasn't :link: ), Michigan-MSU was a great game, Kansas blew out Nebraska in football, UConn is beating Rutgers...

I LOVE THIS GAME.

[Insane man]

Les Miles is giving the state of Louisiana a heart attack. This a team that LSU should have blown out. Alabama should have never been close. Matt Flynn sucked the first half and almost singlehandedly cost LSU the game.

[Requiem]

Yeah, people tend to forget that LSU really isn't all its cracked up to be this season.

I coulda cried. F*ck......

[coheed]

I'm still pulling for an LSU-Oregon national title game. :)

[Velocity]

College Football 2007: Now with 75% more upset.

FSUCKS just beat Boston College.

Predicted top 5 BCS:
1) OSU
2) LSU
3) Oregon
4) Oklahoma
5) West Virginia

[Fire King]

Mine:

1) OSU
2) Oregon
3) LSU
4) Oklahoma
5) Kansas

And that BC loss was just plain sad. Can anyone predict anything this year?

[Quagmire]

Two strait weeks Matt Ryan has looked bad. Didnt look around after their comeback win over VT last week so I dont know what the board's thoughts were of that game...Matt looked horrible until for some unknown reason, VT switched from a D that was kicking butt to the prevent you from winning D which did ultimately cost them the game..that and that VT cant catch a ball. But glad to see BC lose.

What has happened to USF? They looked so good at first...and now they're blah..such is college football.

LSU still has lady luck on her side for some reason. Never have been impressed with Les Myles as a coach, yet talent and luck prevail. Need OSU to lose we need uncertainty with the BCS...chaos please.

[asterisk]

Wow, Nebraska... nothing is going right.

[TheDukeOfBoston]

Damn, Ryan has started to do too much over the last two games. He's trying to compensate for the lack of another good receiver after Andre Callender. Yeah, he made a ton of mistakes, but you can blame alot on his lackluster receivers. Tough loss all the same. Also, the underrated BC defense looked awesome yet again.

[JoetheShow]

Yeah, people tend to forget that LSU really isn't all its cracked up to be this season.

I coulda cried. F*ck......

I was in Tuscaloosa this weekend. I wore a Duke shirt.

Alabama played well but Matt Flynn kept Bama in the game. It should have ben over at halftime.

[Cyanide]

Huh, KU at #4, wouldn't have guessed that.

[Requiem]

I was in Tuscaloosa this weekend. I wore a Duke shirt.

Alabama played well but Matt Flynn kept Bama in the game. It should have ben over at halftime.


And you didn't stop by Fayette? For shame.

John Parker Wilson pissed me off. Its like he just froze durin' the blitzes.

[Quagmire]

Huh, KU at #4, wouldn't have guessed that.
No one would

[coheed]

Updated to here.

Pick Distribution (17)
Louisville (0-17) West Virginia (almost didn't pan out on Thursday...)
Michigan (16-1) Wisconsin (He.Is taking the Badgers)
Wake Forest (5-12) Clemson
Texas A&M (0-17) Missouri (...)
Arkansas (9-8) Tennessee
Illinois (3-14) Ohio State
Auburn (7-10) Georgia
Florida State (0-17) Virginia Tech (go time for FSU again?)
Connecticut (12-5) Cincinnati
Texas Tech (0-17) Texas (...)
Virginia (7-9) Miami FL (NY_Yankees didn't pick for this one)
Florida (15-2) South Carolina
Boston College (15-2) Maryland
USC (9-8) California
And they're winning right now. :D

[Zell 17]

And they're winning right now. :D

Worst jinx ever enjoy your loss.

[Rahul]

Crable......PLEASE! PLEASE! You've cost us so much. Not more. PLEASE! This is bullsh!t. Our defense has reverted back to week 1 mode. There's no sting in our offense. This is terrible. We'd better turn this around REAL soon.

[Rick52]

Well the only consolation is that this game has absolutely no impact on the Big Ten title. No matter what happens to either team today, Ohio State and Michigan will be playing for the title and the BCS bid next week.

That being said, Crable's a douche.

[coheed]

Worst jinx ever enjoy your loss.
3rd quarter and they're still winning. :D BTW, who does UNC play today?

[Rahul]

Our defense sucks. We don't deserve sh!t. This is embarrassing. The defense are playing with NO heart....and the team is playing with no Hart. This SUCKS. I'm so glad I'm not drinking or I might have started getting real rowdy by now...

Great. Atleast we can make some goalline stands....

[coheed]

I am the happiest man on earth right now . . . senior day and my previously pathetic Cornhuskers are leading Kansas State 38-10 just before halftime!!

[Super Jester]

Our defense is actually doing something. Thankfully.

[coheed]

I guess K State forgot their power towels (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A-05wPlQQ4).

[Rahul]

Yay Mallet....

[Fire King]

3rd quarter and they're still winning. :D BTW, who does UNC play today?

NC State. UNC's up by 3 midway through the 4th.

[coheed]

Well, it appears the jinx may come for me yet . . . Wisconsin has managed to squander a 23-7 lead.

But Nebraska is up FREAKING 52-10 in the third quarter, so even if Wisconsin manages to lose it, today is still a good day. :D

EDIT: Holy cow, Mallet just threw a pick right into Wisconsin's hands.

[Rahul]

And I re-iterate....yay Mallet... might not want to run back 19 yads spinning back and forth next time...

Badgers score. So I guess that's that. A pity. F*ck injuries. Consistently f*cking over all my teams. If only we had Henne and Hart

[coheed]

Nebraska finishes off Kansas State 73-31 . . . now THAT'S more like it.

[Dubber Rucky]

I smell an upset coming.. Illinois: 28 / #1 Ohio State: 21 with 34 seconds left in the 3rd Quarter

[KingOfBBQ.]

I'm watching it right now. Juice just converted a 3rd and 10 using his FEET. I think that's his 3rd or 4th first down running it on third down this game. It's amazing, Illinois comes in 6th in rushing offence and 110something in passing offence, and they throw 4 TD's against the #1 defence in the country. It's a good day to be an Illini fan.

[Rick52]

Illinois is the king of running down the clock, at least for today they are. What a final drive they had.

So yeah, next week, Ohio State-Michigan... not so big now. Winner still gets a BCS spot.

...and, it looks like the NC may be between Oregon and LSU now unless Kansas can go undefeated.

[KingOfBBQ.]

Illinois won. I don't believe it. I thought they were gonna be spanked but they beat the #1 team in the country.

[Dubber Rucky]

Now I know that I have never been so happy to be wrong in the Pick 'Em here on GW. Ohio State losing is so great. I think its time for Rick to change the upset percentage. WOOOOOOOOO!

[smashbro14]

Yay, I called the Illinois win! That was a great game.

Oregon had better be #1, but the voters need to get the SEC's balls out of their mouths first. Oregon should be undefeated right now.

[Harris]

Sure enough, the one week I pick Connecticut, they go and lose. :(

[smashbro14]

Jesus, as if things couldn't get worse for Maryland, Keon Lattimore isn't playing tonight. Ball is great, but Lattimore is better. He's second in the ACC in scoring (excluding kickers) which is amazing considering we have our 3 best linemen out for the season...

And Erin Henderson has been nicked up all year so he won't be at full strength...


This is going to be a long game.


They did reference my high school when mentioning Haynos when they showed the starters, though!

[Velocity]

I never expected Ohio State to go undefeated this season anyway. Being undefeated and 10-0, and #1 to boot, was not expected and I'm happy we made it that far. I expected a Rose Bowl berth and maybe two losses this season, so this is just fine by me.

Also... Miami's offense and defensive tackling is horrible.

[Rick52]

Last game in the Orange Bowl for the U, right? 48-0 loss to Virginia? Worst Miami loss in the history of the Orange Bowl? Disgraceful, really.

Also, Mississippi State has the same record as Alabama right now. Which really says more about how much MSU South has improved.

[Fire King]

ECU lost to Marshall! AAAAAAA. Next week against Tulane is a must-win if we want even the slimmest chance of a C-USA championship berth.

Ohio State lost, bahahahahah. Finally. Top 5 BCS should be

1. LSU (sadly)
2. Kansas
3. Oregon
4. Oklahoma
5. Ohio State (D: I know they won't fall too far.)

[KingOfBBQ.]

Illinois is a decent team, this isn't their only win against a top 5 team this year. They have the 6th best running game in the country and they are 6th in a bunch of other stats. Making us an evil team. Muhahaha.

Ohio should be above Oklahoma IMO.

[smashbro14]

I'd be going crazy right now if Maryland had won the games against Wake, UVA, and UNC that they SHOULD have won... but we destroyed BC. Chris Turner had thousands of yards and we picked off Ryan twice.

We can beat two top 10 teams, but we lose to bad teams :(.

[coheed]

Let's make it 81% more upset, just because Nebraska was a 7-point underdog to K State and hung 73 on them? Please? Heck, I'll even take 80.5.

About the rankings, I can't picture the BCS ranking a one-loss team over an undefeated team . . . I think Kansas hops up to number one. Maybe the if the coaches poll keeps them behind Oregon and LSU (which I think SHOULD happen), it might be enough to keep Kansas out of the top spot.

[Rick52]

Let's make it 81% more upset, just because Nebraska was a 7-point underdog to K State and hung 73 on them? Please? Heck, I'll even take 80.5.
Don't question my percentage increases. *cold, dark stare*

About the rankings, I can't picture the BCS ranking a one-loss team over an undefeated team . . . I think Kansas hops up to number one. Maybe the if the coaches poll keeps them behind Oregon and LSU (which I think SHOULD happen), it might be enough to keep Kansas out of the top spot.
Oh I don't doubt the computers will shove Kansas up to #1. Pollsters won't comply though, and since BCS rankings are two-thirds polls, Kansas will probably be #3 at best.

Edit: ugh, polls have Kansas in 4th, behind Oklahoma now. I guess beating Baylor at home does more for you than beating Oklahoma State on the road nowadays.

[Cyanide]

Another one down definitely helps Missouri's chances of making it, nice job Illinois

[Shake]

Did anyone see the end of the washington - oregon state game? at the end, the QB forgot to kneel :blush: take a look here. (http://s165.photobucket.com/albums/u73/Ringleader108/?action=view&current=CLIP0158.flv)

[coheed]

Am I reading this right? Ohio State is STILL number one in the BCS?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/bcs/

[Velocity]

I'm thinking those are old standings, the new BCS polls haven't even come out yet. Stop using Sports Illustrated, too, they're horrible.

[TheDukeOfBoston]

Yeah, those are old. Ohio State moved down to 8 while LSU took over at 1.


and BC dropped 10 spots to 18.......

[Velocity]

New BCS Standings

1) LSU
2) Oregon
3) Kansas
4) Oklahoma
5) Missouri
6) West Virginia
7) Ohio State
8) Arizona State
9) Georgia
10) Virginia Tech
11) USC
12) Florida
13) Texas
14) Virginia
15) Clemson
16) Hawaii
17) Boston College
18) Boise State
19) Illinois
20) Tennessee
21) Michigan
22) Cincinnati
23) Kentucky
24) Connecticut
25) Wisconsin

Thoughts?

[Rick52]

I think the Championship game will have a Big 12 rep. If not Kansas, then Missouri or Oklahoma. The former two will have beaten two top-5 BCS teams at the end, whereas Oklahoma would take out one more. At worst, the Big 12 Champ will have one loss, and a second team will probably make another BCS bowl.

As such, I think Oregon's gonna get knocked out just from the fact that they don't have any 'on paper' tough games left. UCLA has fallen considerably, and lol Arizona. Even LSU still has Arkansas and the SEC title game.

I also don't get Georgia at 9. If Tennessee wins out, they're the ones that goes to the SEC title game, not Georgia, yet Tennessee is all the way down at 20.

[Velocity]

Yeah but look at UConn. They're top in the Big East and mired down in the mid-20s rank-wise. Meanwhile West Virginia is #6? Makes no sense. If UConn beats WVU, what, do they jump up immediately to #6?

[Cyanide]

Thank God Missouri is #5 instead of #6 like the AP poll. They are more deserving then WV

[coheed]

^^When I looked earlier at the old rankings, the page said it had been last updated this afternoon. That's why I was confused.

And pssh, people say the Big 12 is weak. Three teams in the top 5, and two of them from the North? Yeah, that's what I thought.

[JoetheShow]

I also don't get Georgia at 9. If Tennessee wins out, they're the ones that goes to the SEC title game, not Georgia, yet Tennessee is all the way down at 20.

Georgia is eons better than Tennessee. Tennessee caught Georgia napping and got lucky against South Carolina. They won't beat Kentucky.

[Cyanide]

^^When I looked earlier at the old rankings, the page said it had been last updated this afternoon. That's why I was confused.

And pssh, people say the Big 12 is weak. Three teams in the top 5, and two of them from the North? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Since I live in the heart of the Big 12, I'm going to be biased, but it is a strong conference (Without Nebraska too). Such a fierce rivalry between KU and Mizzou, nobody guessed that either would have been this good.

[Quagmire]

Thank God Missouri is #5 instead of #6 like the AP poll. They are more deserving then WV
I SOOO hate Mizzu, they had those years like UVA where they would stop out in the top 25 for a few years in a row and fold in the season, but keep getting these top 25 rankings...has Missouri beaten anyone this year? If not how are they more deserving than WVU? Id take White and Slaton over any combination that Missouri has to offer.

[smashbro14]

Well they haven't played premier teams ouside of Oklahoma (who they blew a lead at the end to), but they did beat Illinois and slaughter Texas Tech. West Virginia lost to South Florida and their only decent win was against Rutgers. They almost lost to Louisville.

And just because you'd take the best 2 players on WV over the best 2 players on Missouri, that doesn't mean the team as a whole is better. Besides, Pat White is grossly overrated, and Noel Devine is the best running back on the team in my opinion. Chase Daniel is playing out of his mind in Missouri and is 5th in the NCAA in passing yards. Personally, I'd take Missouri over WV not only because I think they're better, but also because the Big East sucks and the Big 12 is improving.

[VINTAGE DEED]

I'd take WVU over Missouri. We already know what the offense can do, but the defense is also much improved this year.

The voters always talk about road games. Well, most of their biggest games so far have come on the road. First was the blowout against Maryland. Rutgers was in the top 25, and they absolutely dominated them from beginning to end. They lost to USF, but they were ranked in the top 20, and WVU played more than half the game without their best player. Despite that, they still almost came back and won the game. Besides the USF loss, and the Lousville game (which they controlled most of anyway) they've rolled over everyone they played.

Missouri's schedule is similar to WVU's in the sense that both have beaten up on a few teams that aren't as good as originally advertised. The Big 12 isn't bad, but I think the Big East is better. At least the Mountaineers don't have a total choke job on their record, though.

[coheed]

West Virginia's defense is way better than Missouri's . . . I'd take them.

[Cyanide]

Mizzou will be playing harder teams in their next games though (if they beat KU and go to the Big 12 championship game) .

[VINTAGE DEED]

WVU still plays at Cincy and against UConn (I think). They aren't as high in the rankings, but they aren't cakewalks either. It's still quality competition.

[Harris]

I heard this yesterday on ESPN, that Charlie Weis had been winning with all of Ty Willingham's left over recruits. And now that Weis' guys are making their way to the playing field, Notre Dame is terrible. Then Weis goes and blames this bad season on the players after the loss to Air Force. Not a good sign if your an Irish fan.

[Quagmire]

I heard this yesterday on ESPN, that Charlie Weis had been winning with all of Ty Willingham's left over recruits. And now that Weis' guys are making their way to the playing field, Notre Dame is terrible. Then Weis goes and blames this bad season on the players after the loss to Air Force. Not a good sign if your an Irish fan.
I am not convinced Charlie can win anything nor coach...who has he beaten while at ND...anyone? Almost all his big games have been blow outs...only memorable win was a huge come back over the lack luster MSU Spartans last season

[Harris]

I'm not really impressed by him either. The only big game I'll give him credit for almost winning is the one against USC with the whole 'Bush Push' thing. But when your most impressive game as a coach is a loss, that's probably not a good thing. Otherwise he's been blown out by Ohio State and LSU in bowl games. (And Notre Dame probably shouldn't have even gone to the Sugar Bowl last season. When they played BCS quality teams [Michigan and USC] they got blown out, I don't know why anybody thought they'd do better against LSU.)

Sorry if this sparks a Notre Dame argument. :shrug:

['Dre]

I am not convinced Charlie can win anything nor coach...who has he beaten while at ND...anyone? Almost all his big games have been blow outs...only memorable win was a huge come back over the lack luster MSU Spartans last season
He DID beat a UCLA team who started their 3rd string QB, 2nd string RB, and 2 second string OL.

...

That doesn't count?

[Harris]

Man, losing Dennis Dixon would be a disaster for the Ducks. He's out of the game now with a hurt left knee. They might be able to survive Arizona tonight (barely winning by one now) but their National Championship hopes are all but gone without him in.

[Rick52]

31-11 Arizona now.

Looking pretty nice if you're a fan of the Big 12 now.