Team Rating 4 Competitive Battles

[Rawrh.]

Plz rate my team, im getting a Wi-Fi soon n i wnna be good :wink:

Latias:
Lv. 61
Nature: Timid
Item: None
Moves:
Shadow Claw
Healing Wish
Mist Ball
Psychic

Piplup:
Lv. 61
Nature: Mild
Item: Quick Claw
Moves:
Waterfall
Surf
Drill Peck
Dig

Luxray:
Lv. 62
Nature: Relaxed
Item: None
Moves:
Crunch
Discharge
Thunder Fang
Strength

Rapidash:
Lv. 62
Nature: Naive
Item: Amulet Coin
Moves:
Fire Blast
Bounce
Flamethrower
Flare Blitz

Staraptor:
Lv. 62
Nature: Adamant
Item: None
Moves:
Aerial Ace
Fly
Close Combat
Brave Bird

Dialga:
lv. 60
Nature: Bold
Item: None
Moves:
Dragon Pulse
Earth Power
Roar of Time
Blizzard

I played an ordinary game with these guys and 2 me they r great! i just want the 2 be perfect.
I diddnt let Piplup Evolve by the way :wink:

[Wej]

THis team is to in gamey and you need more accurate moves

[Cytosine]

1) Evolve Piplup
2) Please post EVs, if you use them
3) Lots of people on Wi-Fi don't like ubers

Proper rate later

[SuperSimon]

NEVER I MEEN NEVER USE LUXRAY there are much better thunder types out there

[Wej]

switch luuxray out for an electrivire.

[Shur'tugal]

Just so you know Latias and Dialga are Ubers.

NEVER use more than 2 attacking moves of the same type.

I rate it a 1/20

[Rawrh.]

what is electivire?
and i still don get how i can fix it!?

OO, i just remembered sumthing, cud i use a glaceon instead of luxray?

[Pencil Thief]

Sure, I guess.

An Electivire is the evolved form of Electabuzz. Its all the rage. Get with the times. :P

[Shur'tugal]

Electivre@Expert Belt
Adamant nature

Ice Punch-egg move
Cross Chop-egg move
Earthquake-TM
Thunder Punch-Lv up

Thats the standred moveset.

[Rawrh.]

Rite, Electrivire.
I like Glaceon betta coz i already have one:wink:
What should i teach it and what is the deal with Latias and Dialga? Someone tell me plz

[SuperSimon]

Glacion@leftovers
Modest
Blizzard/ Ice Beam
Hidden Power fighting/ shadow ball
wish
fake tears

Latias and Dialga are called Uber Pokemon. they are too strong for the standard metagame.

[Bulbasaurus Rex]

At the minimum, replace the following moves (not doing the ubers):

Piplup: Waterfall, Dig, (try to use special attacks)
Luxray: Discharge, Strength (try to use physical attacks)
Rapidash: Fire Blast, maybe Flamethrower (try to use physical attacks)
Staraptor: Fly, maybe Brave Bird (try to use physical attacks)

By the way, you can get that exact Electabuzz (except for the hold item, which can be changed) at L50 as a prize in Pokémon Battle Revolution.

[Rawrh.]

NOW i know that latias and dialga are ubers (or whteva it is) how do i replace them, urgh this is harder then i expected... thanx for the your help by the way

[Cytosine]

You change them by using something else that does a similar job. However, I'm not sure what job you're using them for.

Also, replace Luxray with Electivire. Glaceon is quite different.

[Rawrh.]

Urgh now im REALLY stuck!!! someone PLEASE help i feel REALLY PATHETIC!!!!!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHH

[Cytosine]

Uh...what? What are you stuck about?

[Wej]

you should post what you want each pokemon to do.

[Water-Charizard]

take out latias and dialga.

evolve and change piplups moves(conversation recemondation).

swap luxuray for electivire(trade electabuzz holding electavizor).

change staraptor and rapidash moves (conversation recemondation).

and also give all the pokemon items(we will tell you which 1's when you get proper team)

[Rawrh.]

Ok I sort of get it now... i evolve piplup, although i liked it the way it was, but hey. I get Electivire... How? I give them all items that will hopefully help. and i change staraptor, rapidash and piplup moves... What do i swap dialga and latias with?

I want my team to be offensive, by the way

Can u guys help me a bit more with this?

[Shur'tugal]

To get Electivre trade Eletabuzz while holding the Eletirizer.

To get the Electirizer put Fire Red in the GBA slot of the DS go to Vally Windworks and Catch and Elekid.

5% chance of holding Electrizer in Peral
50% chance of holding Electrizer in Diamond

[Bulbasaurus Rex]

...or you can complete all the colosseums in Pokémon Battle Revolution for Wii.

Whoops, that's for the surfing Pikachu. To get Electivire on Pokémon Battle Revolution, just enter the right code at the right place. Check Serebii.net for further details.

[Rawrh.]

There is a problem with both of those useful suggestions...
1. I dont have a FireRed game (anymore)
2. I also dont have Nintendo Wii or Battle Revolution (although i'd like one)
3. Im not sure if this will complicate things a bit but my ds touchscreen is stuffed up and doesnt work

[Shur'tugal]

Well then the only other way for you to get one is to get one off Wi-fi from someone.

If you don't have Wi-fi you caould try a Magnezong.

[Rawrh.]

Yer i'll go for magnazone, much easier... im still stuck in the dialga, latias dilema though

[Cytosine]

What do you want to use Latias/Dialga for? That'd help for deciding a replacement.

[Bulbasaurus Rex]

I recommend a moveset of Thunderbolt, Flash Cannon, Metal Sound, and Magnet Rise for your Magnezone.

[Constantine]

OK, let me see. you used:

Latias: -Replace with Garchomp/salamence/Metagross. (for dragon/Phsicic)
Lv. 61
Nature: Timid
Item: None
Moves:
Shadow Claw
Healing Wish
Mist Ball
Psychic

Piplup: -Evolve- swap waterfall/surf (depends if its att. or sp.att.) for a move with good type coverage.
Lv. 61
Nature: Mild
Item: Quick Claw
Moves:
Waterfall
Surf
Drill Peck
Dig

Luxray: -Evolve to electivire by using a Electrizer. if you have pearl, elekid have a 5% chance of holding them. 50% for diamond.
Lv. 62
Nature: Relaxed
Item: None
Moves:
Crunch
Discharge
Thunder Fang
Strength

Rapidash: -swap Fire blast and flare blitz for Sunny day and solarbeam maybe.
Lv. 62
Nature: Naive
Item: Amulet Coin
Moves:
Fire Blast
Bounce
Flamethrower
Flare Blitz

Staraptor: - NEVER USE FLY. if you use it, someone could switch out an ice pokemon and clean your clock. Keep brave bird and close combat. ditch ariel ace too.
Lv. 62
Nature: Adamant
Item: None
Moves:
Aerial Ace
Fly
Close Combat
Brave Bird

Dialga: -Lucario if you want a steel type. moves- EQ, dragon pulse, dark pulse and aura sphere
lv. 60
Nature: Bold
Item: None
Moves:
Dragon Pulse
Earth Power
Roar of Time
Blizzard

Maybe it could be:

Metagross@shell bell

-Hammer Arm
-meteor Mash
-Psychic
-Rock polish/Toxic

Empoleon@Lefties

-Drill peck
-surf/waterfall
-Ice beam
-flash cannon

electivire@electrizer

-thunder punch
-low kick
-Flamethrower
-iron tail

Rapidash@heat rock

-sunny day
-solar beam
-flamethrower
-Bounce

Staraptor@Macho Brace

-Brave bird
-Close combat
-steel wing/Roost
-U-Turn

lucario@Razor Claw

-Dark pulse
-EQ
-Aura sphere
-Dragon Pulse

[Shur'tugal]

Titan Electivres best moveset is this:

Electivre@Expert Belt
Adamant nature

Ice Punch
cross Chop
EQ
Thunder Punch

And yea replace Dialga and Latias with one of titans suggestions or instead of Thoses dragons you could try one of 2 dragonites


Dragonite@Expert Belt
Adamant nature

Outrage/Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
Fire Punch
Earthquake/Thunder Punch


Dragonite@Choice Band
Adamant nature

Outrage/Dragon Claw
Fire Punch
Thunder Punch
Earthquake

[Rawrh.]

Dead useful ty. Im going for dragonite coz he seems to have the moves that i like. I'm gonna get a lucario (i know how) and MAGNEZONE coz he is SOOOO much more obtainable 4 me.

New questions: Im sorry im so annoying!!! im just not used to playing outside of the game!

1. How do i get a Dragonite?
2. I need a bit more help with my other pokemons moves wat shud i teach them?
3. Is there much point in evolving piplup?

TY SOOO MUCH 4 UR HELP

[Shur'tugal]

1. In mt coronet go up the waterfall and fish with a super Rod. You will evently find either a Dratini or a Dragonair. When you've caught one breed it with a ditto until you get the right nature.

2. Lucario and Starator use what titan suggested. For Magnezone use the moveset Bulba suggeted:

Magnezone@
Modest nature

Thunder Bolt
Flash Cannon
Metal Sound
Magent Rise

Empoleon use titans moveset with Surf.

3. Empoloeon has better stats and a wider move pool.

[Rawrh.]

Woohoo! i finally am getiing there... If I have ny problems, i'll gt back to you.

U GUYS R THE BEST!!!

Problem: How do I get the expert belt thing

[WER]

Fly to Pal Park, then go up and to the left a bit. There should be an old man in a house who will ask you to bring him a Pokemon of a certain level. Show him what he wants, and he'll give you one of three items, one of which is the Expert Belt.

[Rawrh.]

Problem 2: Is Hardy Nature OK for dragonite? I cant be bothered breeding

[Cytosine]

Hardy isn't that great, you should definitely go for Jolly or maybe Adamant.

[Constantine]

Flygon, have you checked the natures chart in WER's sticky thing at the top of the list. named: read this or you will be dynamic punched? it tells you which natures boost what. if so then, STOP being so lazy. Time and effort is a small price to pay for a perfect Dragonite.

[Rawrh.]

Ok it was just because, i finally caught a dratini that wasted 15 Ultra Balls and diddnt really want 100000 of them, but to heck with it i'll get a adamant natured one, if its betta

[Constantine]

it is. perfect natures and well placed EVs give your team such a power boost. =]

[Rawrh.]

YAY!!! WOOHOO I GOT A ADAMANT NATURED DRATINI!!! PARTY!!!!

Ok thats done, how do i get fire punch and thunder punch on dragonite?

[Bulbasaurus Rex]

You need to go to the Move Relearner after it evolves into Dragonite.

[Rawrh.]

Wow, something easy! Seriously, u guys know so much its scary!

[Constantine]

Tip. Always have ice-beam on a dragonite.

[MisterDecent]

Uh....?
Stuck?

Well,
The best moves for a Dragonite are:
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Fire Punch
Thunder Punch

Remember that to learn Fire & Thunder Punch,
You need to go to the move re-learner in Pastoria City.

[Cytosine]

Uh....?
Stuck?

Well,
The best moves for a Dragonite are:
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Fire Punch
Thunder Punch

Remember that to learn Fire & Thunder Punch,
You need to go to the move re-learner in Pastoria City.

Earthquake>Thunderpunch if you can get it. Otherwise good. Jolly nature, or Adamant if not. 252 Atk, 252 Speed and 4 HP EVs.

[Skittleman]

I would consider Dragon Claw over Outrage. While the difference is power is significant, consider that after you strike with Outrage, the opponent can switch to someone who can take the outrage, plus fire back with attacks of their own, while you're stuck still using Outrage, with no option to switch to a better pokemon.

In the end, I suppose it's up to you whether the insane power boost is worth the potential strategic disadvantages that come with it.

[Rawrh.]

Does Dragonite learn Dragon Claw coz i taught my tm dragon claw to Dialga.

[Skittleman]

Dragonite does not naturally learn Dragon Claw. It needs the TM. Unfortunately, I don't know where a second one is. Anyone care to help me out?

[Constantine]

i don't remember the exact location, but usually it's in victory road. i know there is a lot of victory road to search, but hey. you kept going to get an adamant nature, so why give up now?.
if you have the TM on a GBA game. palpark a pokemon while holding the TM. that's how i got 18 masterballs. =]

[Cytosine]

Power difference is definitely worth it. It's the main thing that Dragonite can do that Salamence cannot on a DD set (apart from Focus Punch).

[Rawrh.]

still no luck at finding it! does anyone actually KNOW where it is?

P.S my dratini evolved 2day!

I also decided what im gonna teach Dragonite:
Dragon Claw
Ice Beam
Thunder Punch
Fire Punch

[Shur'tugal]

Use one of these Dragonites

Dragonite@Choice Band
Adamant nature

Dragon Claw
Fire Punch
Thunder Punch
Earthquake



Dragonite@Expert Belt
Adamant nature

Dragon Claw
Fire Punch
Dragon Dance
Earthquake


Tm dragon Claw is on the First Floor of Mt coronet

[Rawrh.]

what is choice band? thanx 4 the dragon claw im gonna go look 4 it

[Cytosine]

Choice Band is an item which raises Attack by 1.5x but you can only use one move until you switch. And I'd personally recommend Outrage>Dragon Claw anyway, at least with DD.

[Rawrh.]

Oh.
Is it possible fore me to have this:
Dragonite@Expert Belt
Dragon Claw
Thunder Punch
Fire Punch
EarthQuake

[Constantine]

Maybe, but i wouldn't have all physical attacks, have at least one sp.att. i would have ice beam over one of the punches.

[MisterDecent]

Oh.
Is it possible fore me to have this:
Dragonite@Expert Belt
Dragon Claw
Thunder Punch
Fire Punch
EarthQuake
It'd be better if there was a Dragon Dance in there.

[Skittleman]

I would put a DD over Thunder Punch

[Cytosine]

I know it's been said before, but use Outrage over Dragon Claw. It's the main thing which you should use it for instead of using DDMence. Lum Berry or Persim Berry held.

[Rawrh.]

Hem... Dragon Claw or Outrage

[Skittleman]

I find the choice between Outrage and Dragon Claw a matter of personal opinion. I prefer Dragon Claw just to be able to switch attacks and be able to switch to save him for later. It is worth noting though that later in the game, when those that can effectively take Outrage (i.e. defensive walls/Steel types), Outrage might have the power to sweep the entire team. The way I see it, Dragon Claw may best be used in the early game, and Outrage, the late game.

[Cytosine]

Outrage, because DD will make it fast enough to outspeed foes, and it has EQ anyway, to kill Steel types (and Fire Fang/Blast for floaty steels).

[Pencil Thief]

Maybe, but i wouldn't have all physical attacks, have at least one sp.att. i would have ice beam over one of the punches.

No. If the nature down grades sp. atk, then why would you use a sp. attacking move?

Personally, I would go with Dragon Claw, but that is because I don't like the side effect of Outrage.

[Skittleman]

But that's what I'm getting at. Once you use Outrage to take out one foe (assuming the opponent doesn't switch right then), the opponent can send in a Steel type. At this point it won't matter what other attacks you have. It will be stuck using Outrage.

[Cytosine]

But you don't bring in Dragonite (or you don't use DD/Outrage) until you know their Steel types are dead. Magnezone is a good partner.

[Constantine]

i said use some sp.att because if someone uses charm or something like that 2/3 times in a row, then you are stuck. and screwed. because you have this huge dragon that should kick-ass, but can't because it has no firepower.

[Cytosine]

Protip-if Dragonite has been Charmed, do not leave it in, generally

Instead, switch to strong special attacker

[Constantine]

well, i am trying to cover all bases, but hey, take a risk. but when you get charmed and you lose, don't blame it on bad luck.

[Pencil Thief]

I don't know if I know any pokemon that are used in competitive battling that would know Charm.

[Cytosine]

I believe the only one that might is Vaporeon. Personally, I'd be more worried about Ice Beam.

[Rawrh.]

So get outrage? Where do i get magnemite? (besides swarm)

[Shur'tugal]

You can transfer one. Other than that and swam and breeding you can't get one legit.

[Cytosine]

Dragonite learns Outrage naturally. Level 71 IIRC.

[Constantine]

IIRC= if i remember correcrly??

[Shur'tugal]

Dragonite learns outrage at Lv 64.

[Rawrh.]

Damn my ds's touch screen doesnt work so i cant transfer!!!! AHHHHHHH cant wait til my bday when i get a new 1!

[Rawrh.]

I am also getting outrage 4 dragonite and my friend is evolving my rioulu 4 me coz i left it in the daycare 2 long lol