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Shur'tugal
October 25th, 2007, 07:07 PM
Skamory is a physical wall right. Well I was wondering if I could put one in my party. The current wall I have is this Blissey:


Blissey@Leftovers
Bold nature

Softboiled
Toxic
Ice Beam
Stealth Rock

EVs: 252HP 252def 6sp def

What would be a good moveset/nature for the skaromry?

WER
October 25th, 2007, 07:53 PM
The one I use has Spikes, Whirlwind, Brave Bird, and Roost, with an Impish nature, and max HP and Sp. Def with 4 in Atk for EVs. Stealth Rock could go over Spikes on that set.

Shur'tugal
October 25th, 2007, 11:20 PM
Skarmory@?
Impish nature

Spikes
Whirlwind
Drill Peck
Roost

EVs: 252HP 252spdef 4att

What about def?


Could I spare one more pokemon?

Electivre@Expert Belt
Adamant

standerd

Blaziken@Expert Belt
Adamant

Fire Punch
Stone Edge
SkyUpperCut
Shadow Claqw

Dragonite@Expert Belt

Standered dd->eq

torterra@Leftovers
Adamant

Seed Bomb
Stone edge
eq
Crunch

Blissey

Kingdra@Damp Rock
modest

Surf
Ice beam
Dragon Pluse
RD

Seerow
October 26th, 2007, 06:02 AM
The one I use has Spikes, Whirlwind, Brave Bird, and Roost, with an Impish nature, and max HP and Sp. Def with 4 in Atk for EVs. Stealth Rock could go over Spikes on that set.
Wouldn't 252 Def be more advisable, and just run when you see a special attacker?

WER
October 26th, 2007, 12:33 PM
I personally like my Skarm to survive random Fire Blasts and non-STAB Electric attacks, so I put mine in Sp. Def.

Then again I'm paranoid. :link:

Shur'tugal
October 26th, 2007, 06:41 PM
If i put it in def couldent I just swich in Blissey when I see a special attacker

Skittleman
October 26th, 2007, 07:05 PM
Some physical attackers might have a surprise special attack just for Skarm (granted not many). Then again there is the occasional Mixed attacking Infernape.

Shur'tugal
October 26th, 2007, 10:30 PM
if I were to use Skarm what should I replace it with because I don't think I could afford to loos any of them.

This is probly the dumest question ever asked but is there a pokemon that could serve as bot a physical and special wall?

SuperSimon
October 26th, 2007, 10:34 PM
cresselia can

Shur'tugal
October 27th, 2007, 05:07 AM
Are there any non legendary ones because the cresselia I have has a relaxed nature{-speed +def} I don't want the speed loss.

Will Cresselia still have a reasonable amount of speed with that nature?

Cytosine
October 27th, 2007, 04:46 PM
Cress doesn't need speed that much, but Bronzong is a good alternative.

Shur'tugal
October 27th, 2007, 05:55 PM
If its not asking to much can someone recommened one more.

Could someone reccomed EVs and a movest for a relaxed cress. A moveset/nature/EVs for Bronzong.

Cytosine
October 28th, 2007, 06:43 AM
Bronzong@Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
EVs: 200 HP / 56 Atk / split the rest into defences however you want
-Gyro Ball
-Earthquake
-Hypnosis
-Stealth Rock

If you can, get a low IV in speed.

For Cress, use Thunder Wave, Charge Beam, Ice Beam and Moonlight/Rest with Leftovers.

Shur'tugal
October 29th, 2007, 12:46 AM
Cheese this wall is for def and sp def

Bronzong@Leftovers
Realxed nature
EVs: 244def 252spdef 8att

Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Toxic
Stealth Rock

What about that?

Cress@?
What would be the best nature
EVs: 244nature raising defenceive stat 252 other defenceive stat 8sp att
Toxic
Charge Beam
Ice Beam
Moonlight

What about that


Whats one more wall that can be both?

That cress' EVs are for a relaxed one.

@Cheese- Why get a low IV in speed. What does it mean/do?

sorry about all the double posts

How much HP does moonlight restore with no weather and with rain?

Bulbasaurus Rex
October 29th, 2007, 10:02 AM
No weather - 1/2 max HP
Rain - 1/3 max HP
Sunlight - 2/3 max HP

Alice!
October 29th, 2007, 10:19 AM
Why get a low IV in speed. What does it mean/do?The slower you are, the more powerful your Gyro Ball will be.

Cytosine
October 29th, 2007, 11:56 AM
Cheese this wall is for def and sp def

Bronzong@Leftovers
Realxed nature
EVs: 244def 252spdef 8att

Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Toxic
Stealth Rock

Use lots of HP. You don't need to use that spread for mixed walls. I'd use at least 200 HP.

Cress@?
What would be the best nature
EVs: 244nature raising defenceive stat 252 other defenceive stat 8sp att
Toxic
Charge Beam
Ice Beam
Moonlight

Always max HP with Cress, then split it fairly evenly, with maybe 50 or so SAtk.

Whats one more wall that can be both? Dusknoir

That cress' EVs are for a relaxed one. Ok

@Cheese- Why get a low IV in speed. What does it mean/do? Linux explained it.

sorry about all the double posts They get merged

How much HP does moonlight restore with no weather and with rain? Bulba already said it, but Sandstorm and I believe Hail also reduce the amount.


Indeed

Shur'tugal
October 29th, 2007, 03:06 PM
Thanks Linux and Cheese.

I don't know which one to use I'm leaning towards Cress with a slight change in its EVs

236 def 252sp def 16sp att


Would that work or could I lower def because of its nature?

Cytosine
October 30th, 2007, 11:41 AM
No, max HP. Just max it. It's more important. Max HP then give it lots of SDef and some Def (nature balances it). Do some stat calcs if you want.

Shur'tugal
October 30th, 2007, 02:50 PM
252HP 156sp def 78def 24sp att

What about that?