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Shoryuken
October 17th, 2007, 04:24 PM
I've liked this girl for a while now and I'm pretty sure I've discussed her here before.

Anyway, I'm afraid I'll never get her. We used to be very close but now for an unknown reason, she seems to dislike me. I've done nothing to anger or provoke her. She just seems... resentful towards me now. No idea what to do at all. I've tried to be REALLY friendly but she'll still lash at me. Occasionally, yes she is quite nice to me, but for the majority of the times I contact her, she is hostile.

I'm thinking maybe... space for a while? I've been considering that but I can't do it.

kittykat512
October 17th, 2007, 07:37 PM
Give her some space. Girls don't like guys that are with them ever second of the day. They like their time alone or with friends. Try consulting with her about a week from today and ask what the problem is. If she won't answer, or she is still mad, drop the subject. If she likes you enough, she will tell you what the problem is on her own.

Shoryuken
October 17th, 2007, 07:59 PM
That's the thing. She talks to people everyday and apparently I'm the only one she cannot tolerate. We've known each other for two years. I'll try that method though.

The only problem I see with your idea is that when we returned from summer vacation this year I didn't speak to her the first week of school and she got mad that I was ignoring her. It's just on and off...

Women are scary.

FalconZero
October 17th, 2007, 09:09 PM
Women are scary.
Quoted for truth.

I say that in this situation, there is no approach better than the direct approach. Ask her what's wrong, and if she is hostile, space yourself for a while. She'll come around eventually.

Shoryuken
October 17th, 2007, 10:53 PM
If I ask her if she's mad. She yells no in anger and becomes mad. If I don't see her, she gets mad because she thinks I'm ignoring her.

MIXED MESSAGES.

There's gotta be a between point...

kittykat512
October 18th, 2007, 06:13 AM
Try texting her or something. MAybe she's have a bad time at her home or something. TXTing is another good method because you don't have to talk face to face, but you can still talk. And she won't actally embarrase you in front of God and everybody. :D

AlphaConfidence
October 18th, 2007, 06:38 AM
Are you actually doing something to push the attraction foward out of the "friend" level? I'd like to know what you've been doing so I can know what advice to give.

But really, if a girl is going to lash out towards you for being like that why even bother with her?

Shoryuken
October 18th, 2007, 10:53 AM
I've just talked to her. That's all. No making moves, no flirting or anything like that. Just being friendly.

Also, I can't text her. She doesn't have a cell phone and she never answers her regular phone... or maybe she knows my number and just doesn't answer my calls.

The reason I want to be with her is that well... I don't know. We're alike in many ways and she knows that. She does retract her claws about... say 30% of the time I see her, but other than that, I get lashed at.

The only way I could talk to her without being face to face is through MySpace, but I hate MySpace and don't want one ever.

Crazy Jamie
October 18th, 2007, 11:28 AM
But really, if a girl is going to lash out towards you for being like that why even bother with her?
I was wondering the same thing. If you've done something wrong and she resents you for it then that's a different issue, and you should make an attempt to apologise. But if you haven't done anything wrong and her mood has changed for no apparent reason, then this might simply not be worth it.

Give it some time and space. From what you've said here it looks like nothing you can do is good enough, so just distance yourself from her for a while. Hang out with other friends. Pursue other girls if there are any that you are interested in. Then with time if you feel like talking to her again go for it and see if things have changed. But right now it just sounds like you're banging your head against a brick wall, which is pointless.

Grey Angel
October 18th, 2007, 12:45 PM
Okay, well, seems that there's something bigger going on than just you and her. It could be that she likes someone else, and you're getting in the way, another thing could also be that she likes you at the same time, and she needs space in order to find out who she'll feel more comfortable with. It's something that I've witnessed and helped clear up most of the time.What you want to do is be more aggressive, she seems to be taking advantage of your friendliness, which makes you look weak and easy to control. You're basically a release for her stress, in a negative way. What I suggest for you to do is confront her, ask her why she's lashin out at you most of the time, and if you get into an arguement, not only will this give you an opportunity to find out what's going on, but will allow her to release even more stress, if any at all. It's all about the right choice of words during this stage, for you want at least a hint as to what's going on, and from there, you can pursue the truth either through her, or friends.

The only way I could talk to her without being face to face is through MySpace, but I hate MySpace and don't want one ever.

And what's wrong with myspace? It's a great way to keep in touch with friends, and a great way to kill time. Shoot, when I'm seriously bored, I go on for a few minutes or so. You shouldn't criticise what you don't know fully.

Shoryuken
October 18th, 2007, 01:05 PM
But right now it just sounds like you're banging your head against a brick wall, which is pointless.
It kind of is. The thing is, I do want to forget about her sometimes but I just can't. Can't do it and I don't think I ever will until she moves away or something.

She does like someone else, but he does not seem interested or at least is too shy to date her. Maybe she's in the same situation as me with someone else. I kinda feel like I could've had her a long time ago if I wasn't such a wuss.

Grey Angel
October 18th, 2007, 01:17 PM
She does like someone else, but he does not seem interested or at least is too shy to date her. Maybe she's in the same situation as me with someone else. I kinda feel like I could've had her a long time ago if I wasn't such a wuss.

Ehh, don't be so down on yourself, I mean, even the 'players', if you want to call them that, have fears of being rejected, it's just how you handle it IF it happens. I mean, I was a shy guy until a learned that, which wasn't too long ago. For you, it's never too late. If she has even the slightest interest in you, be a little rude to her, if you will. When talking with friends, ignore her and talk to everyone else, which will make her ask questions and such to get back into the conversation. You want to show a presence of dominance by showing you are better than her, and by losing her as a potential girlfriend, is nothing, which generates value. I don't know why, but it works when guys are just a tad mean to girls, just a tad. tease her when you get the chance, even when she's angry, she'll laugh at it either infront of you, or behind, and if it's from behind, she'll start to be less aggressive. You want to show you are better than the other guy, that you're a better choice. So it's never too late, I mean, technically, you're WAY ahead b/c you've known her longer, so you know what to do to make her smile, and to tick her off. Use your memories to your advantage, remember what makes her do what in certain moods and such, that's how you'll get her.

Crazy Jamie
October 18th, 2007, 03:07 PM
It kind of is. The thing is, I do want to forget about her sometimes but I just can't. Can't do it and I don't think I ever will until she moves away or something.You can. You just have to make an effort to. Obviously you're not going to be able to move on if you're constantly thinking about what's wrong with her and how you can get into her good books again. The way you move on is to put some space between you and her and take a break from this situation. She's a girl who is not only interested in someone else, but seems to suddenly be irritated with you for no apparent reason that you can see. In my opinion that's not worth the effort. I say aim put some distance between you and this whole situation. Hang out with other friends. Don't necessarily ignore her, but don't make conscious efforts to hang out with her all the time, and don't devote time and energy to working out this issue of her change in moods. Just leave it all alone and come back to it in a few weeks.

AlphaConfidence
October 18th, 2007, 07:19 PM
I'm still sticking with Jamie on this one. It takes far less energy to find a new girl and do all the right things then it is to work on this problem. If you're really so hung up on her it shows you're not respecting yourself by giving yourself plenty of options to pick from. When you starve yourself from having options you tend to act in desperate ways which drives girls away even more.

Go out and meet 10 new girls.

You'll thank me later...

Shoryuken
October 19th, 2007, 01:27 AM
Will do. I'll try the space and the meeting different girls. Or just simply being a tad rude to her. That ought to do something. As I mentioned earlier, when we returned from summer break, i didn't talk to her the whole day while passing her a few times. It certainly got her attention.