View Full Version : Y ahora, algo para Milo
Crazy Jamie
October 16th, 2007, 02:21 PM
Espero que esto te ayudará a practicar tu español.
Milo Rambaldi
October 16th, 2007, 03:55 PM
La ultima vez que yo hablan (Jesus, can't even remember how to put it into past tense), era Enero... Y ahora, yo no puedo hablar espanol bien...
Kai
October 16th, 2007, 05:23 PM
I spoke= (yo) hablé. No se olvide del imperfecto (2 past tenses in Spanish): "Estaba hablando español correctamente en el ayer." ¿Entiende?
No se preocupe--estaremos aquí para ayudarle. No se deje vencer :flaming:
Milo Rambaldi
October 16th, 2007, 10:45 PM
Yo comprendo... Solamente parte de tu.. (Paragraph/statement/etc...)
I think I just need some time to get back into Spanish, and then I can work on some grammar and new vocabulary from there.
Kai
October 17th, 2007, 07:32 AM
* de ti * :tease:
I bet reading a grammar book would bring you up to speed and make you remember those things that have become latent from lack of use. Hasta pronto...
Milo Rambaldi
October 17th, 2007, 03:19 PM
Isn't "Tu" The genetive form of "You" in spanish?
Kai
October 17th, 2007, 05:07 PM
Isn't "Tu" The genetive form of "You" in spanish?
No--tu is the possessive adjective--the poss. is not the same thing as the genitive, a case which evolved in Spanish as the de preposition. Latin had its own possessive adjectives, but tuum and suum were not the same things as the genitive case of a word: these had their own inflections, too (thank God Spanish got rid of them). Spanish evolved to use a certain pronoun declension with things like prepositions. Maybe this chart will help (note that this is the singular declension):
nom. dat. acc. with prep. reflex. poss.
1. yo me me mí me mi
2. tú te te ti te tu
3. él le lo él se su
-- ella le la ella se su
-- ello (n.) le lo ello se su
Milo Rambaldi
October 17th, 2007, 06:30 PM
Is my Russian book giving me the wrong definition of Genetive? :( It says the Genetive shows ownership, and your... Paragraph was... Owned by you... I dunno...
Kai
October 17th, 2007, 07:48 PM
Is my Russian book giving me the wrong definition of Genetive? :( It says the Genetive shows ownership, and your... Paragraph was... Owned by you... I dunno...
Maybe I should say this in another way. Spanish does not have a genitive case--it lost it more than a thousand years from vulgar Latin. In fact, Spanish retains only the nominative (which really means it lost all the cases). Now all ideas of ownership are expressed by de. The key thing to remember is that the kind of second person pronoun to be used after any preposition is ti. Thus Spanish has words/phrases like contigo, cerca de ti, por ti, para ti, etc.
You can't express "Juan's books" using any of the possessive adjectives. It has to be "los libros de él," not ''los libros de su.'' Get what I'm saying?
PS: what were you trying to say up there?
blzbob
October 21st, 2007, 10:42 PM
I understand that this forum might be found (inappropriately) as acting too specializedly for its generality if this idea might be adhered to, but how about a general list (chart, table, whatever) of verb conjugation themes for the buttload of tenses (of Spanish).
Milo Rambaldi
October 21st, 2007, 11:03 PM
I understand... Only part of your... (Paragraph/Statement)
The cases were never really a problem with me, but I guess that since I haven't spoken spanish in 10 months, it hurts a bit.
blzbob
October 21st, 2007, 11:11 PM
It's just that I can't remember all of them--the wierder ones, like subjunctive and imperfect.
dimmerwit
October 22nd, 2007, 08:29 AM
My Spanish is terrible now, I'd really like to learn it though. Is it easy?
Crazy Jamie
October 22nd, 2007, 09:27 AM
I understand that this forum might be found (inappropriately) as acting too specializedly for its generality if this idea might be adhered to, but how about a general list (chart, table, whatever) of verb conjugation themes for the buttload of tenses (of Spanish).
I'm not really sure that'd be worth it, especially when that information can be found easily on the internet or in a book.
My Spanish is terrible now, I'd really like to learn it though. Is it easy?
Picking up the basics of Spanish is pretty easy, yes. Especially if you've learnt it before. You'll be surprised how quickly it comes back to you.
Cuanto puedes comprender? Entiendes esto?
Milo Rambaldi
October 22nd, 2007, 03:03 PM
Well, at least I'm not the only one who will find this useful. :D
I think the thing I'd like to work on first would be conjugating in present tense, to just make sure I can remember it. :)
Kai
October 23rd, 2007, 07:38 AM
Well, at least I'm not the only one who will find this useful. :D
I think the thing I'd like to work on first would be conjugating in present tense, to just make sure I can remember it. :)
Don't forget to work on irregular verbs and stem-changing verbs in your study: these are just things you have to memorise. Do you have any Spanish media as your favorites? Like newspapers, etc? I have a lot. They help...
Milo Rambaldi
October 27th, 2007, 01:25 AM
No, I don't have any access to such a sort of media. :( I guess I could start watching some episodes of ALIAS or something in Spanish, or just have spanish subtitles on (I usually have subtitles anyway, so I WOULD read them)
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I'm wide awake (Yo estoy moy despierto)
An empty bed drives my dreams away (Una cama vacia, volverle mi sueños fuera)
Life melts like ice (Vida fundirsen como hielo)
Disappears in the twinkling of an eye (Desaparecer en el parpadear de un ojo)
I'm losing my mind, (Soy perdieron mi mente)
Pushing reality out of sight
Our lips are touching softly
You're the one I believe blindly
I walk around like crazy
Falling in love frightens me
Days are like wounds
Countless and hard to get through
Prayer...
It burns my sore lips like a fire
Prayer...
Thy name is something I admire
Heaven knows just as well as I do
So many times I have cried over you
Heaven knows just as well as I do
I pray and live only for you
I can't lie to God
as I kneel down and pray
You're the love of my life
That's the only thing I can say
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I tried translating this, but I couldn't even do the first two stanzas... I can't even remember how to do basic present tense of conjugating verbs, let alone poetry. :( Could you correct the mistakes I made? (And if you're feeling ambitious, translate the rest? :P)
Partizan
October 27th, 2007, 09:45 PM
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I'm wide awake (Yo estoy muy despierto)
An empty bed drives my dreams away (Una cama vacia vuela mi sueños fuera)
Life melts like ice (La vida se funde como hielo)
Disappears in the twinkling of an eye (Desaparece en el parpadear de un ojo)
I'm losing my mind, (Estoy perdiendo mi mente)
Pushing reality out of sight (Empujando la realidad fuera de vista)
Our lips are touching softly (Nuestros labios se tocan suavemente)
You're the one I believe blindly (Tu eres el/la que yo creo ciegamente)
I walk around like crazy (yo camino por ahi como loco/loca)
Falling in love frightens me (me asusta el enamorarme)
Days are like wounds (los dias son como heridas)
Countless and hard to get through (incontables y dificiles de superar)
Prayer...
It burns my sore lips like a fire (quema como un fuego a mis labios doloridos)
Prayer...
Thy name is something I admire (Su nombre es algo que admiro)
Heaven knows just as well as I do (el cielo sabe tan bien como yo)
So many times I have cried over you (tantas veces he llorado sobre ti)
Heaven knows just as well as I do (el cielo sabe tan bien como yo)
I pray and live only for you (yo rezo y vivo solo para ti)
I can't lie to God (no puedo mentirle a dios)
as I kneel down and pray (en cuanto me arrodillo y rezo)
You're the love of my life (eres el amor de mi vida)
That's the only thing I can say (eso es lo unico que puedo decir)
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