NFL Week 5-6 Thread

[Sephiroth Strife]

Personally, watching Merriman do the sack dance while his team was down 17 points was perfectly indicative of why San Diego has never been able to do anything.

Merriman was tryign to do what Norv is failing to do... Motivate and inspre the team. He wanted to shut up and let his playing do the talkign this year, but problem is without marty the team isnt getting the pre game speach. It was awsome seeing marty yelling on the sidelines, norv is a good OC, but cant do the motivation, or any other part of the head coachign job for that matter.

[~Shotgunnova~]

When Philips and Cameron left, they should have kept Marty and just hired Norv as the OC. He had success as a coordinator but not a head coach.

[Sephiroth Strife]

When Philips and Cameron left, they should have kept Marty and just hired Norv as the OC. He had success as a coordinator but not a head coach.

Impossible. Norv was the OC of the niners. I think the NFL policy only allows Coordinators to leave the team they coach for if A. contract runs out (it didnt) B. They are being offered a head coaching job.

although... that would have been awsome.. Marty as HC and Norv as OC. Ted as DC would still have been a disaster.

[smashbro14]

Personally, watching Merriman do the sack dance while his team was down 17 points was perfectly indicative of why San Diego has never been able to do anything.
Like Sephiroth Strife said, as a team player you're always going to want to do anything to help give your team momentum. After he makes a big play, he does something to excite his team and sometimes the crowd (if it's a home game). There was absolutely nothing wrong with what he was doing. Getting excited after a sack doesn't mean the team isn't doing well. The coaching changes singlehandedly ruined this team, nothing else. I'm pretty biased towards any former Terp, but don't try to blame the Chargers' regression on the one guy on the defense who's actually doing something.

[Rick52]

~Split~ (http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=548220)

[Andre the Giant]

If my Packers win this week, will they finally get respect?

-kev

[Harris]

I think the Packers are getting plenty of respect, but they're gonna have to beat a team over .500 and fix the running game before people think they're truly for real.

[~Shotgunnova~]

The Packers are good, and I give Favre all the props in the world. But if he has to throw it 45 times a game, I can't see them getting anywhere.

[Day Man]

I think the Packers are getting plenty of respect, but they're gonna have to beat a team over .500 and fix the running game before people think they're truly for real.

it's not their fault the teams they beat can't win.

They beat 3 teams from the playoffs last year. so that counts for something! haha

[Sephiroth Strife]

Packers are respectable, but they need to beat a good well coached team... (here i thought beating my chargers was going to be an accomplishment this year... see the sig). Favre is definitely a HOFer... if he misses it once that is messed up.

Why don't we just change the name of this thread to "The official NFL discussion thread" instead of changing it week by week?

[Shake]

If my Packers win this week, will they finally get respect?

-kev
I already give em respect

[Andre the Giant]

The Eagles, Giants and Chargers are all very good teams. It's not fair to assess them as being under-500. Sure they are, but we're four games in here.

-kev

[Spiner202]

The Chargers (behind the Pats or maybe the Colts) are probably the most talented team in football, but their coach sucks and it shows. When you lose to KC you know your in trouble.

[Sephiroth Strife]

Chargers talented yes, but the coaching is terrible. Ted has no idea how to run our defence. He doesnt play aggressive and isn't blitzing the outside like Wade did last year. Chargers secondary is a joke, but that wasn't as noticeable because the QB usually didn't have to much time to scan the field and throw.

Norv is a crappy head coach all around. I miss Marty...

Chargers 7-9 this year.

The win against the bears, 2 against the raiders, Texans, Vikings, Lions and one other. 10-6 at best, if somehow that gets us to the playoffs. (hope not, i want as much of a case as possible to see Norv fired) one and done.

[Zell 17]

Packers are respectable, but they need to beat a good well coached team... (here i thought beating my chargers was going to be an accomplishment this year... see the sig). Favre is definitely a HOFer... if he misses it once that is messed up.

Why don't we just change the name of this thread to "The official NFL discussion thread" instead of changing it week by week?

How many good well coached teams are out there really for them to beat though? Like 6?

Patriots, Colts, Dallas, Indy, Pittsburgh, maybe Tennessee? So they'd have to beat one of thsoe teams?

[Harris]

it's not their fault the teams they beat can't win.

They beat 3 teams from the playoffs last year. so that counts for something! haha

Last year's stats and standings mean nothing. The first four weeks of the season have proved that. Plenty of teams change from year to year, it never fails.

The Eagles, Giants and Chargers are all very good teams. It's not fair to assess them as being under-500. Sure they are, but we're four games in here.

It's totally fair to say they're under .500, because they are. The stats don't lie. They might be good teams, but they aren't playing like it, and that's what counts.

Maybe some of you took my Pack criticism too hard, but I have respect for them. The defense is playing great and Favre is tearing it up. But the running game is last in the league, and teams will get to Favre and force him into mistakes, since they don't have to bother stacking the box against the run. Teams rarely go far into the playoffs with a one dimensional offense, so the Packers need to turn that aspect around before I think they're true contenders.

[~Shotgunnova~]

The Eagles, Giants, and Norv Turner, and the Vikings suck. The Packers haven't beat anyone. Sure, the Chargers are good, but KC beat them. Norv sucks.

Although I do think they will beat my Broncos once this year. :bawl:

[TheDukeOfBoston]

How many good well coached teams are out there really for them to beat though? Like 6?

Patriots, Colts, Dallas, Indy, Pittsburgh, maybe Tennessee? So they'd have to beat one of thsoe teams?

...

And Pittsburgh is under a first-year coach, Tenn. a 2nd-year I believe. So yeah, their aren't too many teams out there ahead of them with well-established coaches.

[James89]

...

And Pittsburgh is under a first-year coach, Tenn. a 2nd-year I believe. So yeah, their aren't too many teams out there ahead of them with well-established coaches.

You guys are funny. First, Zell says Colts AND Indy and then puts the Titans in the same league as the teams he listed before them. And then, you call Jeff Fisher a second year coach. Hilarious.

[Spiner202]

Isn't Jeff Fisher in his 15th year or something?

But I think they were always a pretty well coached team, they just had no talent and Vince Young saved them.

[TheDukeOfBoston]

Eh, I was under the impression that Tennesee had recently swapped coaches, but apparently not. I don't pay attention to the going-ons of the Vince Youngs.

[Andre the Giant]

It's true about the running game. Brandon Jackson is going to have to really step it up and get it going. I know it won't be Morency and Herron's out for th year. But I still wouldn't have faith in him. Ahman Green probably wasn't the answer anymore either. Keep faith in Jackson. If he busts, this is gonna be a doozy.

-kev

[smashbro14]

The Redskins game was awesome. Carlos Rogers had a touchdown, Sean Taylor had a pick, Jason Campbell was amazing, Randle El had 100 yards at halftime before getting hurt, and Mike Sellers solidified his status as best fullback in the league with his rushing td, receiving td, and performing the hit of the week on like a 20 yard catch. Andre Carter stepped it up like crazy and he had like 10 hurries, 2 sacks, and a safety. And Old Man Thrash had an awesome return!

[TheDukeOfBoston]

And the Pats YET AGAIN, win their game by a decent amount. Right now, people aren't asking "Did the Pats win?" but rather "Did they beat the spread?" which recently has hit amazing 13-16 point numbers.

[KingOfBBQ.]

How many good well coached teams are out there really for them to beat though? Like 6?

Patriots, Colts, Dallas, Indy, Pittsburgh, maybe Tennessee? So they'd have to beat one of thsoe teams?

What about Green Bay? 4-8 last year followed by a 4 game win streak to finish the season... Plus a 4 game win streak to start this season. I think we can kill the bears tonight, followed by another beat down on the RAms and I think we have a good chance against Denver because they are loosing their mojo.

[~Shotgunnova~]

The Chargers picked a BAD week to get hot. Unbelievable. *Reluctantly goes to change sig*

[Zell 17]

Yeah, I meant to have Green Bay where I put Indy.

And the Titans deserve to be in that group, considering they barely lost to Indy, and beat everyone else they've played. Not to mention their head coach is a good one.

[Andre the Giant]

Yeah I can't believe how bad our turnovers have been and we have yet to force any. If we win this game, we have much to work on for next week.

-kev

[smashbro14]

Man, the Bears pulled off a very impressive come back there with Griese and Urlacher. Unfortunately, the Packers' are no longer undefeated. :(

Charles Tillman had to have been the MVP of the game for the Bears, forcing two fumbles in the redzone.


Redskins/Packers next week is going to be epic.

[KingOfBBQ.]

OH MY GOD THE PACKERS JUST LOST!!! What the hell is Brett's problem?! One second he's trying to act like Michael Vick scrambling to the right and then the next second he is throwing a motherf*cking interception. Just like the old 34 year old gun slinger that threw 5 INT's every game. AND WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THE PLAY CALLING? They made NUMEROUS running plays on 3rd down and 4+ AND THEY HAVE A SH*T RUNNING GAME! I cannot believe we lost to the MOTHERF*CKING BEARS AT HOME BECAUSE OF SOME STUPID ASS IDIOT THINKS ITS COOL TO RUN THE BALL ON 3RD DOWN. Brett even threw like 3 balls underhanded! What kind of HOF QB throws underhanded???

We could have easily won our first 6 games. The Bears have like 7 players injured on their defence and a major QB problem so that SHOULD have been a breeze if we let Brett do his thing instead of trust some rookie who can't hold on to the f*cking ball. And then after that the Rams just totaly suck so that is an easy game to win.

I'm embarissed to be a Packers fan... The Bears. WE LOST TO THE BEARS. OMFG -burns all Brett Favre posters- God damnit I hate everything

[Rick52]

Weren't you the Illinois guy? Or what's up with that?

Also needs less overreacting.

Lastly, on another topic, that Leinart injury might be a blessing in disguise for 'zona, they seem to play better with Warner at the helm.

[KingOfBBQ.]

Yeah yeah I'm from Illinois and I like the Packers more than the Bears.

I don't care about how much I react, I need to vent. I'm so pissed off. The Bears suck, 1-3 entering the game. They have a mess at the QB possition and the Packers have a pretty damn good deffence. We have the toughest, strongest, most competitive and one of the smartest QBs in the game against an injury battered Bears defence. We loose in the 4th quarter which is supposed to be Brett's forte. None of it adds up.

[Andre the Giant]

We were bad at the end. We should have won that game, but we didn't. Let's hope to get the Skins next week.

-kev

[JoetheShow]

Bret Favre didn't lose that game. The WR who fumbled twice on touchdown drives did. Did you watch the whole game? The coaches pulled a Redskins and clammed up the offense in the second half. Favre didn't manage the clock well at the end, but it should have never come to that.

[smashbro14]

Holy Christ, you need to relax. All of a sudden Brett Favre sucks after losing a close game and because Driver mistimed his jump in the endzone? That loss was by no means his fault. The Packers are still great and there's no shame in losing to the Bears. Why did they run the ball on 3rd down? Well maybe it's because their running game was doing well for the first time this year? Stop overreacting after your team lost by 7 to the defending NFC Champ for the first time this season. They're still in great shape to win the division.

And uh... I think the Bears were only missing one starter on defense: Nathan Vasher. Mike Brown doesn't count.

And as for the "easily win first 6 games." It's not like the Redskins aren't a good team this year. Have you watched them play yet? They're better than any team the Packers have played thus far.

[Andre the Giant]

Skins are going to be a huge test. I think if we played like we did in the first Q we could beat any team in the NFL right now. But here's what happened. We came out in the second half absolutely terrified and it showed. The running game was solved early in the second half, but we kept pounding it in. Clock management was bad at the end of the game. Fact is it should not have come down to a late drive. Driver was so close too, he's a superb jumper. But hey, if we learn now and helps us later in the year, so be it.

-kev

[Day Man]

I also sort of think this is the loss we probably should have had at Phili...honestly there was no way we should of won that game and we did. And after the first half there was no way we should of lost and we did.

[Fire King]

The Packers played respectably. In the first half. However, the Bears have a habit of making teams fall apart in the second half (See: Bears vs. Cardinals 2006) and the rivalry made that much more intense. Green Bay wasn't going to go undefeated with a one-dimensional offense. They need a solid running game to win.

[Day Man]

Run game looked good tonight though, I was surprised!

[Sephiroth Strife]

My Chargers... thats the team I wanted to see this year... well almost. Nice to finally see a good game, but nothing to change my sig over. I probably wont change it unless somehow they as coachign win the SB. (dont see it happening)

[~Shotgunnova~]

I couldn't believe that the Bears came back. I stopped watching the game because I though the Packers had it. They dominated all game. But you know guys, the Bears record can be misleading. They still have a great defence, even if its not as good as last year.

[KingOfBBQ.]

I listened to all of it on the radio, I heard in the first half they averaged 10 yards per play on first down running the ball. Then I started watching the second half... Favre was under pressure and threw it away underhanded this one time (wtf?) and after the first half they kept pushing their luck on the run but didn't get anything on third down and 5+. Even after they knew the run wasn't working anymore they kept doing it. THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!

[Day Man]

THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!


I will NEVER understand that quote haha.

Either way, Brett Favre has been doing that underhand shovel pass or whatever you wanna call it for the past 16 years. It's just what he does. No use bringing it up now haha.

[Harris]

And uh... I think the Bears were only missing one starter on defense: Nathan Vasher. Mike Brown doesn't count.

It was huge having Archuleta and Tillman (Horse trailer player of the game alol) back, and I think Danieal Manning had only one other game played at corner before last night. Otherwise McGowan and him were pretty green back there. I was worried when they traded away a backup safety and corner after the draft this year, but so far it looks like they held onto the right guys.

But you know guys, the Bears record can be misleading. They still have a great defence, even if its not as good as last year.

I think it's even better than last year's when they're 100% healthy. Darwin Walker at noseguard is much better than Tank Johnson was last year. The secondary will be great when healthy, and now they only need to get Vasher back, and move Manning back to safety where he has a lot more experience. When the offense can just eat up clock and avoid turning the ball over, the defense is scary good. If the offense gets a little more productive, they have the potential to be a damn good team once again. Benson looked better last night. I know he only averaged like 2 yards a carry, but he didn't fumble and he was the workhorse they needed. The Bears had a real tough stretch these first few weeks, and even then they had a couple games they were in the position to win. They've just had some really bad luck and injuries. A game like this is just what they needed.

[Day Man]

OMG! WOW!

You all know what I'm talking about.

Exciting last 1:00

[Insane man]

Nick Folk is my hero. That play where coaches calling timeouts right before the kick is getting ridiculous.

[Velocity]

Buffalo goes 1-15. You heard it here first.

[smashbro14]

God dammit Bills! WHAT THE HELL! Don't you know the Redskins needed you to win that one? Geez. THANKS A LOT.

Tony Romo sucks.

Buffalo goes 0-16. You heard it here first.

lol Velo. The Bills won last week.

[Fire King]

That play where coaches calling timeouts right before the kick is getting ridiculous.

Tell me about it. It's a loophole that was smart once, clever a second time, and agitating the third.

And I feel it'll keep being used and abused.

On another note, the Cowboys should have lost that game. Five picks? Come on, Romo. But eh. Exciting game.

Also, Jake Delhomme is out for the season. Elbow surgery. In other news, the Panthers miss the playoffs.

EDIT: Looks like Trent Green's gone too. Not a good weekend for QBs.

[Harris]

Screw you Dallas, I liked it better when Chicago was the only team that could commit six turnovers and still win the game. :(

[Zell 17]

Oh well. I won money by betting Buffalo +11, and I still get to see the matchup of undefeateds next week, so I am happy.

Pats own Cowboys next weekend.

[Tim!]

Nick Folk is my hero now <3. essentially 2 straight 53 yard game winning kicks. I could care less about all the stats and stuff that was just a great game to watch overall :D

[Dubber Rucky]

Pats own Cowboys next weekend.

You got that right. I have a feeling it will be a good game......For the Patriots!

[Patrick!]

WHY DOES GOD HATE MOTHER****ING BUFFALO, WHY, WHY, WHY?????????

ESPN showed twice as many Tony Romo alone segments during countdown than Bills segments. Is it "America's team", or "Team down America's throat"?

God, that sucked, our Oline is still terrible. We force 6 turnovers by Mr. Overrated, and we can't score an offensive ****ing touchdown. :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:

Velo, Bills go 5-11, finish 2nd in the AFC East. We play Miami and New Jersey twice, nuff said.

[Alu]

Nick Folk is my hero now <3. essentially 2 straight 53 yard game winning kicks. I could care less about all the stats and stuff that was just a great game to watch overall :D
I was down 74-78 in fantasy before dallas scored its last touchdown, and Folk is my kicker.

50+ yarders are worth 5 points in my league.

[JoetheShow]

ESPN showed twice as many Tony Romo alone segments during countdown than Bills segments.

In essence, when they showed his 6 turnovers, they showed highlights for the Bills. Although I agree that the voiceover commentary was only about Romo.

Edit: good week to be an Auburn Tiger:

Roderick Hood: pick6
Carlos Rogers: pick6
Ronnie Brown: Good game with a TD
Jason Cambell: awesome game
Wayne Gandy: D'oh
Cadillac Williams: D'oh

[Patrick!]

Joe, I was referring to the pregame show.

3 five+ minute segments purely on Romo, while the Bills coverage was20 seconds saying Trent Edwards looked good, 2 minutes on Kevin Everett. ESPN's theme song was Kid Rock singing about the Cowboys. No matter what anyone says, ESPN favors the Cowboys, Pats, Yankees, Sawx, and possibly the Colts(don't notice them as much because I don't mind them). ESPN only shows big-ticket teams, and everyone's getting sick of it. The Colorado Rockies are one of the best teams in baseball right now, and ESPN is like "blolTorreSaawxPapiArodblol" for 5 minutes, then talks about Tedi Bruschi(God Bless His Soul) and Tom Brady, with side dishes of TO and Romo.[/rant]


Also, Romo threw 5 picks, lost a fumble, and still won. I still don't know how that sh*t happens.

[Whale Biologist]

Buffalo goes 1-15. You heard it here first.

No you didn't. I said it first. I said they'd go 1-15 beating Cleveland, and right now that's not looking too much like a win.

As far as this week's game goes, all it did was prove me right about my Bills yet again: they're horrible. It's like they're so used to losing that they get the lead and then, OMG what do we do?

BTW: The fact that their head coach's name is Dick is getting more and more appropriate as the season goes on. They should just fire him right now. He was a piece of crap when they hired, a piece of crap while coaching the team, and will be a piece of crap when they fire him.

I guess it's time to call it a season, eh Patrick?

EDIT: just saw your above post. I think as Bills fans we should be lucky that we got 20 seconds of coverage. That segment was orginally slated for 5 seconds.

[TheDukeOfBoston]

I just need to laugh hysterically at the Buffalo Bills team. I feel so sorry for them, and yet so far they are making themselves the joke of the NFL, like the Raiders last year, and so on. Dallas had no business winning that game with the way Romo played, and yet the Bills couldn't do enough. It's just so sad.

[~Shotgunnova~]

Tony Romo sucks.

I HIGHLY doubt that. :rolleyes:

Just because you have a bad...horrible...atrocious game doesn't mean you suck. Romo is one of the better QBs of the league, and is much better than Rivers.

Also, Romo threw 5 picks, lost a fumble, and still won. I still don't know how that sh*t happens.

Ask Rex Grossman. He knows. :link:

And the most logical answer to that is the Bills offense is so freakin' bad. Edwards is decent though.

[Insane man]

The problem is the Bills play calling conservative. They just tried 3 yd routes and hoped they turn into a big play. Then on third and 1 or something they tried some reverse or something that lost like 4 yds.

[Harris]

Just because you have a bad...horrible...atrocious game doesn't mean you suck. Romo is one of the better QBs of the league, and is much better than Rivers.

It's too early to grade Romo good or bad yet. Remember last year when he had an amazing November, and then really struggled the rest of the season? He's looked good at times, but pretty mediocre at others. Lets give him a full season before we say he's one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

And I wouldn't say he's much better than Rivers. Both play well when their stacked offensive teammates produce, and both struggle when they don't.

Ask Rex Grossman. He knows. :link:

Hehe, kinda funny, this whole situation reminds me exactly of Grossman last season. He had an amazing first month of the season and was named the NFC Offensive Player of the Month for September, then fell apart on his Monday night debut against a pretty bad team, and his team miraculously still won the game. Both committed six turnovers. Wierd. :paranoid:

[Sephiroth Strife]

Romo had an off day, I unforutunitly think he will rebound.

I dont think romo will be the next Rex, but at the same time he is hardly the second comeing of elway broncoes fans are looking for.

Umm i just posted on 4 hours of sleep and was thinkign abotu culter, who also has a sub par game... real romo talk.
*starts counting days till I can edit posts*

Those 4 turnovers are unaceptable for a team, much less a single player. Against the Bill no less, who are in a rebuilding stage. He is a good QB, but will never be manning or brady.

[smashbro14]

Velo, Bills go 5-11, finish 2nd in the AFC East. We play Miami and New Jersey twice, nuff said.
Oh, because the Bills are SO much better than the Jets and Dolphins. The Bills SHOULD be going 0-16. I think they're the worst team in the league... they just got lucky against the Jets. I see no reason why they can win anymore games for the rest of the year.

And you'd mine as well put "I love Tom Brady" in your CT now :D. Don't think I'm going to forget that little wager.
Carlos Rogers: pick6
Jason Cambell: awesome game
Man, it made me so happy that Carlos Rogers finally caught an interception. He's dropped like 20 in the past 2 years. And Campbell corrected the only real flaw in his game this week, even if it was against the lolions: completion percentage (without Santana Moss and half of Randle El).
I HIGHLY doubt that.

Just because you have a bad...horrible...atrocious game doesn't mean you suck. Romo is one of the better QBs of the league, and is much better than Rivers.
Are you serious? I wouldn't be surprised if Tony Romo gets cut this week.

You guys need to get better at figuring out when I'm serious or not... but in all honesty, Romo has proved absolutely nothing to me. Great, he's 5-0 against the worst teams in the NFL and choked last year. I'm not impressed one bit.

Those 6 turnovers are unaceptable for a team, much less a single player. Against the Bill no less, who are in a rebuilding stage. He is a good QB, but will never be manning or brady.
Fixed.


Also, Mack Strong retired.

[Sephiroth Strife]

Thanks for fixing my post. once again, 4 hours of sleep.

Its raider week in San Diego. With the way a lot of fans here are, Norv Will take a huge amount of heat if he loses this. Here in San Diego we hate losing to the raiders... there was a time when 2-14 was fine long as we beat the raiders twice. (that era is long gone now that we have talent on our roster... finally) Even though my team is the biggest under acheiver this year, my 21 jersey will be on my back.

Chargers should win this one, raiders are still in rebuilding, although they are better then last year, they will need to beta some better teams for anyone to think much of them.

[Rick52]

Matt Leinart... is gone for the year (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3056164).

As a result, Arizona signed Tim Rattay.

[Harris]

It now sounds that Lance Briggs wants to stay (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/10/10/bc.fbn.bears.briggs.ap/index.html) in Chicago. While I wish he felt this way a few months ago, better late than never. But, he said the same thing last summer, and then refused to sign a long term deal, so lets hope this is different.

And Joey Porter still hates (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/10/10/winslow.porter.ap/index.html) Kellen Winslow. Quotables:

"It has kind of been one-sided," Porter said Wednesday. "I've never lost to him. It's like me picking on my little brother."

"He's a receiver, really," Porter said. "He's not a tight end, because he's not going to block anybody. I'm not knocking his game; he's a receiver.

"If you ask me who's going to win the Joey Porter-Kellen Winslow battle: Me. He's not going to block me and stop me from doing anything I'm going to do."

[Captain Haddock]

Chargers should win this one, raiders are still in rebuilding, although they are better then last year, they will need to beta some better teams for anyone to think much of them.

Yes. Because One Win proves so much. That's why the Dolts Chargers will win 50-0 right?

[Day Man]

You can't even go 50-0...

The Raiders were horrible last year, and need to prove they can be a decent team.

The Chargers were amazing last year, and need to prove they AREN'T a good team.

I mean they kind of already are, but I'm not sure everyone is sold yet that they suck...just like not everyone is sold on the fact the Raiders might win 6+ games.

That's what he's saying.

[James89]

It now sounds that Lance Briggs wants to stay (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/10/10/bc.fbn.bears.briggs.ap/index.html) in Chicago. While I wish he felt this way a few months ago, better late than never. But, he said the same thing last summer, and then refused to sign a long term deal, so lets hope this is different.

And Joey Porter still hates (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/10/10/winslow.porter.ap/index.html) Kellen Winslow. Quotables:

Joey Porter needs to stfu. Hes so damn overrated. He gets all of his sacks when mached up agaiinst TE's and HB's.

[Sephiroth Strife]

Yes. Because One Win proves so much. That's why the Dolts Chargers will win 50-0 right?


/sigh... why do I always get commets like this when i try to point something out? Not once did I ever say the Chargers were some great team, tallent wise possibly, but the coaching staff is a joke. I judge them by the games against the Pats (ugly) and the Colts. As for my score predicion... Chagers by 10 or less. I belive my sig will explain why.

[Harris]

Joey Porter needs to stfu. Hes so damn overrated. He gets all of his sacks when mached up agaiinst TE's and HB's.

Yeah, it's gettng to a point where he really needs to shut his mouth and just play against Winslow Does anybody know how this began?

[Zell 17]

The Cowboys are so retarded. Look at what Wade Phillips came out with this week:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3060040

As if you need to prod the sleeping giant. Pats by 20.

[TheDukeOfBoston]

It's not like the Bills where Romo can throw 5 picks and nothing will come of them. I guarantee that if Romo throws another five to Pats defenders, at least 2 will come back for TDs, and the rest will probably lead to drives of at least three points. Silly Wade Phillips.

[Alu]

It's not like the Bills where Romo can throw 5 picks and nothing will come of them. I guarantee that if Romo throws another five to Pats defenders, at least 2 will come back for TDs, and the rest will probably lead to drives of at least three points. Silly Wade Phillips.
don't forget about the fumble though, that should get some points too.

[breebree]

lol im suprised the falcons have won any games this year w/o vick

[Spiner202]

Vick was actually pretty bad. He turned the ball over too much. Yeah he could run 50 yards for a TD, but you need more than that to win games.

[Harris]

"Devin Hester you are ridiculous!"

89 yard punt return for a touchdown today against Minnesota. Why do people kick to this guy? I just don't understand. :crazy:

[James89]

I get chills every time I watch Hester. Week 6 he has 3 return TD's. Hes on pace to break the record he set last year lol.

I'm watching WAS/GB right now. Why do I get Tennessee/Tampon Bay on CBS? Anyways, look like GB/WAS will be one hell of a game. GB scores and Washington answers right back. Also, why is someone wearing an Indians hat in this game? lmao

[Rick52]

Why do I get Tennessee/Tampon Bay on CBS?
It's probably the national broadcast; I'm getting it too.

Also, if I had known the Jets were wearing those throwbacks I wouldn't of picked them in the Pick'em. :-\

[smashbro14]

I get chills every time I watch Hester. Week 6 he has 3 return TD's. Hes on pace to break the record he set last year lol.

I'm watching WAS/GB right now. Why do I get Tennessee/Tampon Bay on CBS? Anyways, look like GB/WAS will be one hell of a game. GB scores and Washington answers right back. Also, why is someone wearing an Indians hat in this game? lmao
This is so frustrating. Campbell's pick came off a drop by moss and he's thrown one bad pass so far. And Sean Taylor has had 2 passes literally go through his hands. STOP DROPPING THINGS.

Hehe, Jets.

[Spiner202]

How 'bout them Chiefs, up 17-7.

I hate my cable, I have Sunday ticket, so I should be able to watch every game, but 4 of the channels aren't working including the KC game.

[James89]

This is so frustrating. Campbell's pick came off a drop by moss and he's thrown one bad pass so far. And Sean Taylor has had 2 passes literally go through his hands. STOP DROPPING THINGS.

Hehe, Jets.

I could have sworn I saw him throw two but I think I heard one of the announcers say he is 9/11 so I'm probably wrong. But yea, Skins in the redzone with 2 min to go in the first half.

[smashbro14]

AAAAAAND Sean Taylor just helped Brett Favre set the interception record after dropping two others. Taylor's playing really well this year.

EDIT: The Redskins have 5 drops :(.

[James89]

Wow, Adrian Peterson is tearing it up. Both of his touchdowns were just sick.

[Harris]

Wow, Adrian Peterson is tearing it up. Both of his touchdowns were just sick.

Yeah he is, he's not getting touched until he's five yards deep. The left side of Minnesota's line is tearing up the Bears, and they just cannot tackle.

[smashbro14]

Santana Moss can go to hell.

3 drops: 1 caused a pick, 1 was for 50+ yards... and a fumble returned for a touchdown on a reverse. 0 catches.

[Rick52]

inb4angrysmash lol

Looks like the Vikings have their game in the bag. Adrian Peterson is a monster of some kind.

Edit: okay, now the Redskin game is just getting hilarious.

[James89]

Taylor gets his second interception and the offense collapses. lol poor Skins.

[Velocity]

I've got an AIM convo saved of smash going insane. Available upon request. :rotfl:

Also, Adrian Peterson is godly.

[Rick52]

I'd like to read that.

Also, Devin Hester is a monster equal to that of Adrian Peterson.

[smashbro14]

Oh my God, Campbell can't even get a pas off and our 3rd string RT just got hurt. I don't think we have any linemen left on the team. Starting C, RG, and 3 RTs are hurt now.

[James89]

Velo I would like to see that.

And yes, Minnesota/Chicago looks like one hell of a game. AD is a monster.

[smashbro14]

If anyone else was in the game instead of Santana Moss, we would have won by at least 2 scores. We need Jon Jansen and Randy Thomas back so bad. This is stupid. We should have won that game. Moss should be benched for McCardell.

[TheDukeOfBoston]

The Pats are currently putting their 2007-patented command on Dallas, shutting down Romo on each posession, while scoring two touchdowns in the first quarter. But to avoid being as dissapointed as Smash, I refuse to call it a game right now.

[Harris]

I just wish the Bears would have taken more shots downfield before they were down by two scores. Even on third and long, the Bears threw a screen or a pass outto the flats. Minnesota had the 30th ranked passing defense, they should have at least tested it more. Thrilling finish, but AD was just too much.

[Cyanide]

Chiefs won, and actually outplayed their opponents, for once