Byakugan vs. Sharingan...the battle of the eyes

[The Crowing]

Ok well, I recently had a discussion with my friend over which was better, we both pretty much agreed that byakugan is extremely better than sharingan for a few reasons, number one being that sharingan is easily counterable by throwing a smoke bomb, or something to that effect, as Sharingan does not allow the user to see through objects. However, the Hyuuga clan's Byakugan would allow the user to hone in on the other persons chakra, essentially cancelling out the smoke bomb's effect. Anyone else have any views on this?

[genericname]

How is learning ANY technique (within the users capabilities) not better?

Between equally skilled fighters the Sharingan would win. Due to being able to dodge most enemy attacks before they happen. Byakugan does have its advantages too.

[Nicholas]

hmmm, this is a tough one...oh what the hell, they both rule

[W4W4]

wow um .... mangekyou sharingan ftw trust me.. sharingan pwns... just trust me...

[The Crowing]

wow um .... mangekyou sharingan ftw trust me.. sharingan pwns... just trust me...
ehh...true, but I was really trying to compare normal sharingan to byakugan, seeing as how mangekyou isn't a very common form of the blood trait.

Also, generic, my argument is basically that if you can impair the user of sharingan's vision at all, wouldn't it nearly completely cancel out the effect of sharingan? I might agree that if you couldnt impair the sharingan users vision that sharingan might be a little better, but it really wouldnt be too horribly hard to do.

[W4W4]

there are also 3 different techniques to the MS... only 2 has been shown not all have to do with one way ^_^...

[genericname]

Genjutsu can be seen through by the byakugan.

[W4W4]

This is a much higher level of genjutsu... again... we have actually seen 1... know about 2.. but there is still a third jutsu that is probably stronger then the others..

i dont think byakugan can see through that... also you have to activate byakugan which takes time... time that they dont have if you know what i mean.

[Wred]

sharingan is rendered useless if it can't be used to see into the other person's eyes. in fact, didn't Gai have a way of avoiding sharingan without using smoke or anything?

[W4W4]

wow seriously... i mentioned this 3 times now... that was only 1 technique from the MS... you dont know how the other 2 is done. and you have to remember 1
technique takes alot out of them.

also like i said... you have to activate byakugan... itachi walks around already in his sharingan. once the byakugan user realizes they are in battle its all ready too late...

[Wred]

and we're talking about sharingan as a whole. ok, I'll give you that one or two of "MS techniques" don't need eye contact, but sharingan is pretty useless without eye contact otherwise.

actually, I like the way this guy put it:
UHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Stop with the byakugan vs sharigan !!!

IF YOU SUCK AS A NINJA, IT DON"T MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE CAUSE YOU STILL SUCK!

It's not what you have, it's how you use it! If someone with a byakugan can use the full capabilities of it and a person who sucks has the sharingan and can't use it, it would seem that the byakugan is better, but it's not it's the person who sucks ass.

They are two different eye's used differently. Each has it's advantages in different situations!
In a poker game which one would you want? -Byakugan
In a rock paper scissors game which one would you want? -Sharingan

[W4W4]

right.... but this topic isnt about which would you use in which situation..

this is about the say the byakugan at its max and sharingan at its max who would win with the info so far given to us in the manga or anime ^_^

[Wred]

o rly? Crowing said nothing about its maximum. he merely mention the two and proposed a question.
I guess you didn't take in the main idea of that quote, oh well.
as I see it, the general (and most common) purpose of the sharingan is to predict the opponent's moves, copy jutsu, and see through illusion (ex, differ shadow clones from the actual person). added with the rare and obviously not easy to aquire "M," it grants that person a few more abilities, and a degradation of vision over time.
then the byakugan, which gives the user a near 360 degree field of vision, the ability to accurately attack the chakra network (internal damage), close tenketsu (could be considered the same as "attacking the chakra network"), see through obstructions, and hone in on anyone's chakra.
even if MS doesn't need eye contact to preform those other jutsu, they still need to find the other guy. as you saw vs Zabuza, it isn't a very easy task.
however, when put in a situation like Neji got in the chuunin exams, byakugan has the fun task of having to get rid of the shadow clones, while sharingan wouldn't have that much of a hard time.
sharingan has some advantages over byakugan, however byakugan has advantages over sharingan as well.
until they make a clear byakugan vs sharingan battle in the series (I don't know of one yet), this is really all up to opinion. I will agree with The Crowing that sharingan seems more fallible than byakugan. the byakugan has more of a benefit while searching for an opponent through nearly anything. I would say that byakugan is more of a technique used to drastically improve skills that have already been aquired, while sharingan is a seperate type of skill on its own.

[W4W4]

yea i didnt understand the other posters post other then the fact he played it off as both abilities have different advantages,,

and your post was more the post i was looking for a reason on which one would gain the upper hand if fought against one another..

however the reason why i added maximum was due to the fact of who can surpass who in the end if they were both capable of their maximum potential.

[Neo Matrix]

right.... but this topic isnt about which would you use in which situation..

this is about the say the byakugan at its max and sharingan at its max who would win with the info so far given to us in the manga or anime ^_^No-one clarified how far you could go with the info ;)

[Zyko]

I think Sharingan would win because the point of being able to hit Chakra points if you can't hit them? that and with the Mangekyou Sharingan you could use the Genjutsu (can't remember whats it's called) to make them have a mental breakdown. then use Ameratsu

[Neo Matrix]

Because no-one specified the spoiler level of this question I'll assume that it's US dub and therefore spoilers are needed for anything later.

[Itachi Uchiha]

Actually the sharingan is from the byakugan so in other words its a trait from the byakugan which means the byakugan would probably win(even though the sharingan is way cooler).

[The Crowing]

Actually the sharingan is from the byakugan so in other words its a trait from the byakugan which means the byakugan would probably win(even though the sharingan is way cooler).
Wait, when did you hear this? I just thought that they were eye traits passed down in each seperate family...?

[Neo Matrix]

I'm sure it's mentioned by someone during the Neji-Naruto fight.

[Wred]

yeah, some where during the chuunin exam I think Kakashi mentions that it's rumored that sharingan was derived from byakugan. They say that in Clash of Ninja 2, too.

[Itachi Uchiha]

Yes Neji mentions it to sasuke in the anime or game just not sure which.

[Wred]

I'm pretty sure Neji hasn't said that to Sasuke in the anime, but in the game he did.

[Itachi Uchiha]

Yeah thats right.

[Neo Matrix]

I believe Neji and Sasuke have only talked to each other once "on screen", that being the episode where they enter the Chuunin Exam.

[Hoagirie]

LOL!! Ofcourse the byakugan would win, the sharingan was born from the byakugan, and if anyone paid attention to the episodes when neji fights hinata in the preliminary rounds, kakashi even says that the byakugan is better than the sharingan, LOL!!!

[Nicholas]

Umm, dude, if you just take a look at some Naruto info, you can see that the Sharingan is more powerful than Byakugan...However, I wish that Neji and Sasuke would fight in the anime already!!!!

[Sirithe]

Nah, Byakugan should take out a basic Sharingan. Now I said basic. Seeing as we have only seen one Mangekyou Sharingan, I don't know how it would hold up for a basic person, I mean Itachi is an extremely gifted ninja. But putting a basic Uchiha, which we also haven't seen, Sasuke is pretty gifted, against a basic Hyuuga (Hinata?) I think that Hyuuga would walk off with it. Using their fighting style they can cut off the flow of chakra, no chakra, no Sharingan (Im assuming).



Now if its say Neji vs. A Mangekyou user, I'm thinking that the Byakugan would lose. Unless they can see through the illusion with their eyes (Not sure if that was a skill of Byakugan) then they would be basically immobalized for the kill.