Celebacy.

[Pakkun]

I made a decision a while ago that although I am gay I still hold my beliefs and faith close to me and would like to remain celebate.
Just curious how other people feel about it.

I feel that sex can complicate relationships. Also, I don't think love is sin where as it is MY belief that sodomy is. I'm not saying it is true and I'm not saying I am right I was want to generate some conversation. Forgive me if this comes off as arrogant or pretentious.

I just feel that people can have a healthy relationship without involving sex.

So...lets talk?

[Crazy Jamie]

I feel that sex can complicate relationships.Whilst I can see this happening indirectly through religious beliefs of the people involved in the relationships, or with couples who are either virgins or inexperienced in general, I would say that in general sex itself very rarely complicates relationships. The vast majority of the time a relationship will break down for reasons that have nothing to do with sex.


I just feel that people can have a healthy relationship without involving sex.
This is true. However, whilst people do often overstate the importance of sex in a relationship, it is important not to understate its importance either. Being intimate with your partner can bring a lot of benefits to a loving relationship, not least the fact that it is a lot of fun.

With regards to your decision to remain celebate, my feelings on it are rather neutral. It's not something I would ever do, but I understand and respect your reasons for doing it. Having said that, it will be interesting to see how your views on this change with time, and specifically when you find yourself in a close and loving relationship.

Out of interest though, I have two questions. Firstly, have you actually had sex or been intimate before, with either a guy or a girl? Feel free to not answer that if you don't feel comfortable doing so, I would just find it interesting if you'd made the decision not to have sex having never experienced it. Secondly, because only sodomy is against your religion, would you intend to be intimate with a partner but just not actually have sex, or would you simply not do anything sexual at all? I'm just curious about that seen as your main reason for wanting to be celebate seems to stem from your beliefs, which only prohibits sodomy. Again, if that's too personal I apologise, and feel free not to answer it if you're not comfortable doing so.

[ThePowerName]

I made a decision a while ago that although I am gay I still hold my beliefs and faith close to me and would like to remain celebate.
Just curious how other people feel about it.

I feel that sex can complicate relationships. Also, I don't think love is sin where as it is MY belief that sodomy is. I'm not saying it is true and I'm not saying I am right I was want to generate some conversation. Forgive me if this comes off as arrogant or pretentious.

I just feel that people can have a healthy relationship without involving sex.

So...lets talk?


Why, what happened to repentence? or are you waiting till mariage.....?

Whilst I can see this happening indirectly through religious beliefs of the people involved in the relationships, or with couples who are either virgins or inexperienced in general, I would say that in general sex itself very rarely complicates relationships. The vast majority of the time a relationship will break down for reasons that have nothing to do with sex.

This is true. However, whilst people do often overstate the importance of sex in a relationship, it is important not to understate its importance either. Being intimate with your partner can bring a lot of benefits to a loving relationship, not least the fact that it is a lot of fun.

With regards to your decision to remain celebate, my feelings on it are rather neutral. It's not something I would ever do, but I understand and respect your reasons for doing it. Having said that, it will be interesting to see how your views on this change with time, and specifically when you find yourself in a close and loving relationship.

Out of interest though, I have two questions. Firstly, have you actually had sex or been intimate before, with either a guy or a girl? Feel free to not answer that if you don't feel comfortable doing so, I would just find it interesting if you'd made the decision not to have sex having never experienced it. Secondly, because only sodomy is against your religion, would you intend to be intimate with a partner but just not actually have sex, or would you simply not do anything sexual at all? I'm just curious about that seen as your main reason for wanting to be celebate seems to stem from your beliefs, which only prohibits sodomy. Again, if that's too personal I apologise, and feel free not to answer it if you're not comfortable doing so.


yeah, the part about understating it, I agree and also when gay people have sex how do you tell which is going to be the reciever? flip a coin, or do you like pain...

don't be offended.

[Pakkun]

[quote]Why, what happened to repentence? or are you waiting till mariage.....?[/qoute]

Well, same sex marriage is frowned upon in the United States and isn't legal in most, if not all states.

Being forgiven is God showing grace for our shortcomings in life. The goal is to try to avoid sin and being in a sexual relationship which is considered a abomination is sinning. Asking for forgiveness while continuing to commit those sins is kind of abusing the system, for lack of a better term.

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You can be intimate without having sex. I have been intimate with a guy before without actually participating in the act of coitus.

Also, I don't like sodomy. Not only is it against my faith but it is pretty much unnatural. The anus is/was 'designed' to expel, not the other way. Since it is two guys involved there really aren't any vaginas to speak of so conventional intercourse is pretty much...impossible.

So it's not only my beliefs but for health and safety reasons as well. The anus is delicate and can be damaged quite easily. STDs can be contracted easier through anal intercourse aswell.

I guess it's more or less a safety precaution. Even if my faith turns out to be false ad their is no God in the end, what am I missing?

[Crazy Jamie]

Even if my faith turns out to be false ad their is no God in the end, what am I missing?
If it's not your thing, then nothing. Both homosexual and heterosexual couples indulge in anal sex, but if it doesn't float your boat then you certainly shouldn't feel like you're missing out on anything. As with a lot of things to do with sex it is a matter of preference.

Your statement about being able to be intimate without intercourse has pretty much answered by queries about your choice. If you had made the decision to have absolutely no imtimate contact with anyone, then I would perhaps have questioned your choice as being rather unrealistic. As it is, it's certainly both understandable and realistic. It is an incorrect assumption on behalf of many that two males in a relationship will inevitably have anal sex. That is simply not the case, as it is most definitely not to everyone's liking regardless of your sexuality.

[ThePowerName]

[quote]Why, what happened to repentence? or are you waiting till mariage.....?[/qoute]

Well, same sex marriage is frowned upon in the United States and isn't legal in most, if not all states.

Being forgiven is God showing grace for our shortcomings in life. The goal is to try to avoid sin and being in a sexual relationship which is considered a abomination is sinning. Asking for forgiveness while continuing to commit those sins is kind of abusing the system, for lack of a better term.

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You can be intimate without having sex. I have been intimate with a guy before without actually participating in the act of coitus.

Also, I don't like sodomy. Not only is it against my faith but it is pretty much unnatural. The anus is/was 'designed' to expel, not the other way. Since it is two guys involved there really aren't any vaginas to speak of so conventional intercourse is pretty much...impossible.

So it's not only my beliefs but for health and safety reasons as well. The anus is delicate and can be damaged quite easily. STDs can be contracted easier through anal intercourse aswell.

I guess it's more or less a safety precaution. Even if my faith turns out to be false ad their is no God in the end, what am I missing?


I guess you really can't get pleasured by anybody you want to do if you see it that way, or you could just use your hands, because your saying gay sex is an abomination and I agree but is also says in the bible that all other sex that isn't normal sex(missionary with a woman) is considered a sin...

[Schteve]

Why, what happened to repentence?... You know, the idea of repenting is to actually be sorry for what you did, not pretend to be so you can get away with whatever you want provided you make up for it later.



yeah, the part about understating it, I agree and also when gay people have sex how do you tell which is going to be the reciever? flip a coin, or do you like pain...Uh, it's largely a matter of preference. Sometimes guys will only like one position or the other, while others enjoy both and just take turns at will.



Also, I don't like sodomy. Not only is it against my faith but it is pretty much unnatural. The anus is/was 'designed' to expel, not the other way. Since it is two guys involved there really aren't any vaginas to speak of so conventional intercourse is pretty much...impossible.

So it's not only my beliefs but for health and safety reasons as well. The anus is delicate and can be damaged quite easily. STDs can be contracted easier through anal intercourse aswell.Plenty of gay guys share your sentiments. Though certainly not the majority, your views aren't all that unheard-of. It's perfectly possible and healthy to have other forms of sex with guys. After all, the anus isn't the male's sex organ or anything. :tease:

[Px2]

So it's not only my beliefs but for health and safety reasons as well. The anus is delicate and can be damaged quite easily. STDs can be contracted easier through anal intercourse aswell.

Well, so long as you always use a conny, and take things carefully at the beginning, neither of those issues are a big deal. I think personal preference and your faith are your best reasons.

Also, if it hurts...UR DOIN IT WRONG.