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Nanasawa Kimiko
August 23rd, 2005, 12:16 PM
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ADVANCED FORMAT LIST EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1st, 2005
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I. Forbidden Cards

You cannot use these cards in your Deck or Side Deck:

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Change of Heart
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Delinquent Duo
Fiber Jar
Graceful Charity
Harpie's Feather Duster
Imperial Order
Magical Scientist
Makyura the Destructor
Mirage of Nightmare
Mirror Force
Monster Reborn
Painful Choice
Raigeki
Ring of Destruction
Sinister Serpent
The Forceful Sentry
Witch of the Black Forest
Yata-Garasu

NEW! - Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning, Delinquent Duo, Graceful Charity, Mirror Force, Ring of Destruction, Sinister Serpent

II. Limited Cards

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

Book of Moon
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Call of the Haunted
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Confiscation
Cyber Jar
D. D. Warrior Lady
Dark Hole
Dark Magician of Chaos
Deck Devastation Virus
Exiled Force
Exodia the Forbidden One
Heavy Storm
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Lightning Vortex
Limiter Removal
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Metamorphosis
Morphing Jar
Mystical Space Typhoon
Night Assailant
Pot of Greed
Premature Burial
Protector of the Sanctuary
Reckless Greed
Reflect Bounder
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
Sangan
Snatch Steal
Scapegoat
Swords of Revealing Light
Thousand Eyes Restrict
Torrential Tribute
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Tsukuyomi
Twin-Headed Behemoth
United We Stand

NEW!- Book of Moon, Confiscation, Dark Hole, Limiter Removal, Metamorphosis, Night Assailant, Scapegoat, Thousand Eyes Restrict, Tsukuyomi.

III. Semi-Limited Cards

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

Abyss Soldier
Creature Swap
Emergency Provisions
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Gravity Bind
Last Turn
Level Limit - Area B
Manticore of Darkness
Nobleman of Crossout
Reinforcement of the Army
Upstart Goblin




Newly Unlimited Cards-
Marauding Captain
Vampire Lord
Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow

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Here's some news to keep everybody in the loop on the upcoming Forbidden List.

As you may be aware, Asia changes their Forbidden/Limited List on March 1 and
September 1. We change ours on April 1 and October 1, 30 days after Asia. This is
because we want to give people more time to prepare changes to their decks,
rather than just a few days' notice.

In Asia, the new September 1 list is currently beginning distribution. The first
place that the information will appear is in publications produced by the Jump
magazine group. Konami will be putting the list up on their web page after the
Jump magazines are in full circulation in Asia, since the Jump magazines get
first dibs on this information.

Over the past couple months, UDE has been in extensive contact with Konami
regarding the Forbidden List. We have been aware that A LOT of players here were
not happy with the current list, and we've been beating Konami over the head
with that, like a big manga mallet.

In the end, after extensive discussions (and far too many nights of Kevin working
until 3 AM), Konami agreed to implement several (but not all) of our suggestions.
If you take a look at the new Asian list (which you can find through
yugioh-card.com in a couple more days), you might be surprised at the extent that
it goes towards curbing some of the more... shall we say, troublesome, elements
of the game we've seen. We were very happy that Konami was receptive to our
points regarding several cards.

HOWEVER, some of the things that we've been discussing with Konami are the
significant differences between the Asian game environment and the environment
everywhere else. There are many cards available in Asia (mostly promo cards)
that are not available here yet. This has a huge impact on which cards are
powerful and which cards are not so powerful. Also, play styles are incredibly
different. There are decks used here that Asian players have never seen before,
and vice versa.

Rather than have the UDE play environment dictate the Asian Forbidden
List, and rather than have the Asian play environment dictate the Forbidden List
in the rest of the world, we may be moving to a system where there are separate
Forbidden/Limited Lists for Asia vs. Americas/Europe/AUS&NZ.

What this means is that we're discussing a situation where some cards might be
Forbidden in Japan but still legal here, or vice-versa. Or something might
be Limited here, but still allowed in 3's in Japan. You get the idea.

Another important element is the Traditional Format, which does not exist in Asia.
Konami may want to allow certain cards again so that players can blow the dust
off of them and pull them out of their binders in order to play with those cards
again. For us this is not a concern, since all cards are usable in Traditional
Format, so we’re not keen on allowing some cards back into Advanced Format just
for the sake of having them playable again. In this respect, Traditional Format is
sort of our "safety valve", one which Asia does not have access to.

This is all still under discussion. We're hoping to get it all settled in the next
week or two. Fortunately, since our list doesn't go into effect until October 1
anyway, we have a little bit of a buffer zone with which to work this all out.

Our goal is to have a fun and exciting game environment. Konami's goal is exactly
the same. If different Forbidden/Limited Lists in different areas will help
promote this, then that is what we will do.

In the mean time, please sit tight. It's gonna be a wild ride.

Kevin Tewart
Game Designer
UDE Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG R&D Lead
Upper Deck Entertainment

Radant128
August 23rd, 2005, 02:46 PM
THE PWNAGE!!!!!! OMG They listened!!!!!

Konami has my respect!

But can you translate... Yeah I know, but I'm lazy.

Chris G.
August 24th, 2005, 06:58 PM
Hey Vampire lords unlimited now. Im so glad i traded my BLS last month, i bet the guy is pissed that he cant use it, after he traded so many good cards to me. :D

Hashinator89
August 25th, 2005, 10:45 AM
Please stop playing Yu-Gi-Oh and start playing either Magic:the Gathering, RawDeal, or Vs. System.

Lokarin
August 25th, 2005, 11:01 AM
Hey, thats quite opinionated.... you left out Old series Xmen, BattleTech, StarWars, Xfiles, and the ever popular Settlers of Catan *not a card game*

But anywat... wow, what a Ban List... I'd be disappointed in the restriction of TER, Tsuk, and Metamorphosis... but I only have 1 of each anyway.... BUT NOT SINISTER... waaahhh..., wait, nwm... I'll just use another Night Assailant.... nope... um... k, I guess I'll just never tribute anything ever again

I only ran 1 scapegoat anyway... and with Cyber Magician I wont need anything else except my 1 Limiter and a few direct attacking machines (if there are any)

Nanasawa Kimiko
August 25th, 2005, 11:12 AM
But anywat... wow, what a Ban List... I'd be disappointed in the restriction of TER, Tsuk, and Metamorphosis... but I only have 1 of each anyway.... BUT NOT SINISTER... waaahhh..., wait, nwm... I'll just use another Night Assailant.... nope... um... k, I guess I'll just never tribute anything ever again

This may not be the TCG ban list.

Garland
August 25th, 2005, 03:31 PM
Hashinator-Quit flaming in the threads. This concerns Yugioh players. You don't play it, don't read or post in it. I also want to know what in the world this RawDeal is. I've never heard of it or seen it. You keep talking about it, but never say what it is.

Chris G.
August 25th, 2005, 09:25 PM
I hope they do make vampire lord unlimited here as well, seeing as i have teh ultimate zombie deck thats won 5 regionals in a row here :D

Nanasawa Kimiko
August 25th, 2005, 09:26 PM
I hope they do make vampire lord unlimited here as well, seeing as i have teh ultimate zombie deck thats won 5 regionals in a row here :D

Why would you WANT to play 3 Vampire Lords? It clogs up your hand badly.

Radant128
August 26th, 2005, 03:07 PM
Vamp Lord in threes isn't bad in a Zombie deck. Its called dump and revive. Or you could just use Pyramid Turtle. I've never run Vamp Lord in 3s because I was only able to get my hands on one because of SD2.

Although for my design, I'll stick to two, throw in Confiscation and Dark Hole and presto... tourney calibur deck.

Chris G.
August 26th, 2005, 04:50 PM
Oh 3 would be ownage, seeing as i can either reload them if its clogged, pyramid them from deck, dump and revive, oh so many ways to get all 3 out in 1 turn its not even funny...

Radant128
August 26th, 2005, 07:09 PM
Last Will is gonna start going into Zombie decks. Because two vamps on the field with one still in reserve is not something you'd really wanna pass up.

Chris G.
August 27th, 2005, 01:25 AM
*claps* well said, well said. Im thinking of running a last will or two, if only i can decide what to take out, perhaps spell absorbtion, although its good M/T removal bait, and If not, then the 15,000 life i had last game makes up for it :D

Ayen
August 29th, 2005, 07:27 PM
hmmm. well, vampy to me would be SO much better if it discarded the top card off your opponent's deck, instead of declaring a card type, ur opponent searching through it, and discarding it. no offense, but right now, I just don't see all that much use in vampy. his resurrection effect seems hard to use, and his other effect sounds like it'd give your opponent an advantage instead of taking it away from him. phoenix, on the other hand, seems far better. it doesn't have a discarding effect, but a heavy storm effect. that, and the resurrection effect seems easier to use. of course, vampy does have his upsides, too, for one thing, he's dark (chaos food), and he's 5 star. that stuff is good. anyway, far as the banned list goes, I wish they'd post it pretty soon.

Chris G.
August 29th, 2005, 07:39 PM
Vampire lord in a zombie deck is a staple, its not a zombie deck if hes not there. His ressurection effects easy enough, unless they attack it or something, its coming back.
plus, id rather thin out their magics, and make them get rid of staples. :D

Ayen
August 29th, 2005, 07:44 PM
hmmm, I guess it's how I play him then. most of the time, I'd probably be bringing it out with call or premature, and if the equip gets destroyed, then vampy goes w/o self-resurrection. that, and the fact that your opponent can just get rid of cards that won't help them out at all, or would help them out the least, just means that your helping your opponent get the cards they need more quickly. unless every single card in ur opponent's deck is either useless, or necessary, or unless your deck is focused on decking out your opponent, I don't see much use for it.