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Inlé_rah
January 16th, 2005, 10:53 PM
Are you ever going to post your 500 question LotR SAT that was so hard that the highest score anyone got was 290? I'd like to take a shot at it. I'm in dire peril from boredom.
*hands Alec the red arrow*
Alec: What's this?
Inlé: Something that didn't make the movies. It's kind of like Ghân-buri-Ghân; even the people who've read the books forget it.
shortkut
January 17th, 2005, 12:27 AM
you said you'd do it and you did :D i'll sticky this in a bit…assuming alec doesn't answer it by tomorrow.
i'l;l try it too even though i haven't read the books in years
AlecTrevylan006
January 18th, 2005, 12:05 AM
Alec: I know what it is! The guy who was carrying it back to Minas Tirith got killed so Gondor didn't know if Rohan was coming!
Inle: Alec...
Alec: What?
Inle: Its shiny
Alec: SHINY??!?! (plays with arrow, cuts self) Owwwww
Inle: Back to the point, do you have the test?
Alec: Eh well, its in rather poor form, I still have the 75 or so questions to start off from when I started it and was like 10. Stuff like "name the 9 fellowship members". Those aren't too good
Inle: ...
Alec: and also, nobody ever used books on it, so its probably not that hard once you get down to it and if you weren't lazy like all the people I've ever known. And encyclopedia of arda probably makes it easy as Realm's mom
Inle: Did NOT need that image
Alec: But I'll try and get around to trimming it up, hopefully I can get a working version together in time, I'll likely have to trim it to at most 400 questions, and there'd still be redundancies. Maybe I'll add a writing component "Write a fanfic" essay prompt for one, then for another writing section give two contradictory quotes and ask you to reconcile them, and maybe a "Pretend you are a Valar. The Noldor are going to fight Morgoth. What will you do to stop them?" I see it now... and then the... hey, where'd you go?
(off in Harry Potter forum)
Inle: You OWE me
Shortkut: We'll kall it even, k?
Inlé_rah
January 18th, 2005, 12:23 AM
Alec: But I'll try and get around to trimming it up, hopefully I can get a working version together in time, I'll likely have to trim it to at most 400 questions, and there'd still be redundancies. Maybe I'll add a writing component "Write a fanfic" essay prompt for one, then for another writing section give two contradictory quotes and ask you to reconcile them, and maybe a "Pretend you are a Valar. The Noldor are going to fight Morgoth. What will you do to stop them?" I see it now... and then the... hey, where'd you go?
Yeah!
Wait... That sounds like schoolwork, in which case you will get nothing short of teh sarcasm. Plus, only the new SAT and the Writing SAT II have essays. Now if you were making a writing SAT II...
Suggestions:
(ripped from the Tolkein Sarcasm Page)
When Isildur had control of the One Ring, why didn't he use it to command the Ringwraiths? Or the Elven-rings? Or the Dwarven-rings? He could have ruled the whole of Middle-earth with that Ring, yet he decided instead to just write a couple of letters and then go for an unfortunate swim. What's his problem, anyway? Was he stupid?
Why is the tale of Beren and Luthien subtitled "Release from Bondage"? :hmm:
And if, as is likely, a bacterium had landed on the inner surface of the Ring, would the Ring corrupt it into an evil bacterium? Would it be invisible to other bacteria? Would its' life stretch out and become an unending weariness? Would it use its' increased strength and stature to rule over other bacteria? Would it fight to keep other bacteria from adhering to the Ring? Would it still evolve genetically, or would it instead become a Bacteria-wraith?
When the Dwarves of beautiful Khazad-Dum built their Western door, why did they allow it to be inscribed with the insulting name of "Moria" ("Black Pit"), a name that would only be earned long years afterwards?
Reconcile Tom Bombadil's statement that he is "Eldest" with Gandalf's statement that Fangorn is "the oldest of all living things". Extra Credit: suggest a valid date of birth for each of them. Document your answers.
Aragorn states that Sauron never uses the name "Sauron", nor does he "permit it to be spelt or spoken". Reconcile this text with the text of Return of the King, where the Lieutenant of Barad-Dur clearly states, "I am the Mouth of Sauron".
Though Moria is, by rightful ownership, Dain's, Balin nonetheless referred to himself as "Lord of Moria". Helm's Deep is clearly the property of the Rohirrim, being part of lands granted to them by Gondor long years ago, yet in Return of the King Gimli declares himself "Lord of the Glittering Caves". Explain the laws and history pertaining to Dwarven property rights, and how those differed from the customs of Elves and Men. For full credit your answer must also reconcile Dwarven property laws with the generous nature of Aule, the Dwarves' creator.
How would the history of Middle-earth have differed if Sauron had returned to Aman and received the judgement of Manwe at the end of the First Age, rather than remaining in Middle-Earth? Describe resultant cultural differences which would have taken place in the Second, Third and Fourth Ages. Special emphasis should be given to the cultures of the Grey Havens, Numenor (including the Dunedain and the Black Numenoreans), the Rohirrim, the Dunlendings and others descending from the peoples of the White Mountains, the Ents, the peoples of Khand, the Orcs (particularly those tribes living in the Grey, Misty and Ash Mountains and the Mountains of Shadow), the Elven peoples of Gil-Galad (include Elrond and the likelihood of Rivendell's being constructed), the Hobbits (beginning from when they were living in the Vales of Anduin), and the Haradrim (both Near and Far Harad must be covered for full credit). Also speculate on the differences in culture which would take place in Aman as Sauron describes his experience with evil to the Valar, Maiar, and Eldar living there. On Silmarillion, it states that "Manwe was free from evil and could not comprehend it"; would he gain an understanding of evil from the experiences of Sauron? Be prepared to defend your answer.
Actually, scrap that last one. I got a headache from reading it. :D
shortkut
January 18th, 2005, 09:20 PM
Yeah!
Wait... That sounds like schoolwork, in which case you will get nothing short of teh sarcasm. Plus, only the new SAT and the Writing SAT II have essays. Now if you were making a writing SAT II...
Suggestions:
(ripped from the Tolkein Sarcasm Page)
When Isildur had control of the One Ring, why didn't he use it to command the Ringwraiths? Or the Elven-rings? Or the Dwarven-rings? He could have ruled the whole of Middle-earth with that Ring, yet he decided instead to just write a couple of letters and then go for an unfortunate swim. What's his problem, anyway? Was he stupid?
Why is the tale of Beren and Luthien subtitled "Release from Bondage"? :hmm:
And if, as is likely, a bacterium had landed on the inner surface of the Ring, would the Ring corrupt it into an evil bacterium? Would it be invisible to other bacteria? Would its' life stretch out and become an unending weariness? Would it use its' increased strength and stature to rule over other bacteria? Would it fight to keep other bacteria from adhering to the Ring? Would it still evolve genetically, or would it instead become a Bacteria-wraith?
When the Dwarves of beautiful Khazad-Dum built their Western door, why did they allow it to be inscribed with the insulting name of "Moria" ("Black Pit"), a name that would only be earned long years afterwards?
Reconcile Tom Bombadil's statement that he is "Eldest" with Gandalf's statement that Fangorn is "the oldest of all living things". Extra Credit: suggest a valid date of birth for each of them. Document your answers.
Aragorn states that Sauron never uses the name "Sauron", nor does he "permit it to be spelt or spoken". Reconcile this text with the text of Return of the King, where the Lieutenant of Barad-Dur clearly states, "I am the Mouth of Sauron".
Though Moria is, by rightful ownership, Dain's, Balin nonetheless referred to himself as "Lord of Moria". Helm's Deep is clearly the property of the Rohirrim, being part of lands granted to them by Gondor long years ago, yet in Return of the King Gimli declares himself "Lord of the Glittering Caves". Explain the laws and history pertaining to Dwarven property rights, and how those differed from the customs of Elves and Men. For full credit your answer must also reconcile Dwarven property laws with the generous nature of Aule, the Dwarves' creator.
How would the history of Middle-earth have differed if Sauron had returned to Aman and received the judgement of Manwe at the end of the First Age, rather than remaining in Middle-Earth? Describe resultant cultural differences which would have taken place in the Second, Third and Fourth Ages. Special emphasis should be given to the cultures of the Grey Havens, Numenor (including the Dunedain and the Black Numenoreans), the Rohirrim, the Dunlendings and others descending from the peoples of the White Mountains, the Ents, the peoples of Khand, the Orcs (particularly those tribes living in the Grey, Misty and Ash Mountains and the Mountains of Shadow), the Elven peoples of Gil-Galad (include Elrond and the likelihood of Rivendell's being constructed), the Hobbits (beginning from when they were living in the Vales of Anduin), and the Haradrim (both Near and Far Harad must be covered for full credit). Also speculate on the differences in culture which would take place in Aman as Sauron describes his experience with evil to the Valar, Maiar, and Eldar living there. On Silmarillion, it states that "Manwe was free from evil and could not comprehend it"; would he gain an understanding of evil from the experiences of Sauron? Be prepared to defend your answer.
Actually, scrap that last one. I got a headache from reading it. :D
1. yes, he was
2. well he kompared himself top beren and his wife to luthien, kombine that with him being a dirty old man and you get your answer
3. it would bekome a virus
4. a grafti-artist dwarf ¢hiseled it in years later
5. tom bombadil died when gandalf said that so fanghorn was the oldest left alive, or gandalf is senile
6. the mouth killed the ears of sauron so he knew he kould kall sauron what he wanted with no reprokusions bekause the one i kannot read lips
7. dwarves are greedy kreatures and kare not for the wills/wishes of others mu¢h like Aule when he kreated them without Illuvatar's permission
8. um…no?
Inlé_rah
January 18th, 2005, 11:03 PM
2. well he kompared himself top beren and his wife to luthien, kombine that with him being a dirty old man and you get your answer
:chuckle:
You've got to admit that there is something scarily obsessive about this (http://mural.uv.es/daboixca/images/grave2.jpg). Argh. Please don't tell me that the stained glass things are some sort of ensignia...
3. it would bekome a virus
But a virus, unlike a bacterium only reproduces by copying its RNA into the mRNA (I think) of another cell. Oh nevermind. An evil virus it is.
5. tom bombadil died when gandalf said that so fanghorn was the oldest left alive, or gandalf is senile
I vote for the later: either the Halflings' leaf or Realm's drugs.:D
6. the mouth killed the ears of sauron so he knew he kould kall sauron what he wanted with no reprokusions bekause the one i kannot read lips
But can't the Eye of Sauron (not in the Peter Jackson's Eye=searchlight sense) stretch his will to perceive the thoughts of others? Meh.
7. dwarves are greedy kreatures and kare not for the wills/wishes of others mu¢h like Aule when he kreated them without Illuvatar's permissionLol. I thought that was more of an impatience thing. In any case, both Sauron and Saruman were both Maia of Aule, and look how they turned out. That whole 'generouse nature' thing didn't seem to come through much.
8. um…no?Meh. The Valar would probably let him out in a few thousand years like Melkor (stupid stupid stupid) so everything would just happen later.
shortkut
January 18th, 2005, 11:21 PM
yay for pushing things off till later :D
me thinks the shinies be in the stained glass :paranoid:
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