Signature Rules - Images/Size/Content/Links/Glow (Read this or lose your signature)

[Klowny]

You must be registered for at least two weeks before you can have a signature.

Rules concerning images in signatures

Now that images are becoming most commonly used in signatures, the limits need to be covered here. All of the dimensions of an image can be seen by right-clicking on the chosen image and selecting properties.

These are the maximum dimensions for an image:

- 500 pixels wide
- 160 pixels high
- Filesize of 25kb (25600 bytes)

Those conditions can only be met if just one image is used, otherwise it will push the signature over the limit.

-Should a line of text be present above or beneath the image, the maximum height of the image is 140 pixels.
(With an image that is 140 pixels high, you can have one line of either size 1, 2 or 3 text under it.)

-Should there be more than one image (A maximum of 5 images are allowed in one signature), the combined filesize must not exceed 25kb (25600 bytes), the combined horizontal width must not exceed 500 pixels and the vertical height of the images must not exceed 160 pixels.


Sig Length: Text Size/Length Comparison
~~Contributed by MichaelAngelo~~

10 lines in NORMAL text (THE standard length that all Sigs must not exceed)

01: TEXT
02: TEXT
03: TEXT
04: TEXT
05: TEXT
06: TEXT
07: TEXT
08: TEXT
09: TEXT
10: TEXT


20 lines in Small Text ( & NOT the equivalent to 10 lines Normal text)

01: TEXT
02: TEXT
03: TEXT
04: TEXT
05: TEXT
06: TEXT
07: TEXT
08: TEXT
09: TEXT
10: TEXT
11: TEXT
12: TEXT
13: TEXT
14: TEXT
15: TEXT
16: TEXT
17: TEXT
18: TEXT
19: TEXT
20: TEXT


Any Sig should be no longer that the first example, regardless of Size, Font or whatever. 10 lines Normal text is the standard and benchmark.

20 lines in small text is NOT the equivalent. 13 lines in small text would be the maximum in direct comparison (and that's stretching it a bit).

Edit-Addendum: An easy way to self-test is to take a small piece of paper, place it up against the first example in Normal text and mark the upper and lower limits. Then compare those marks against your own or anyone's Sig. Simple and effective.

Edit-Amendment: The Administrator has invoked a new mandate concerning the limitation of the amount of glow strength effect permissible. Effective immediately, the maximum SIG glow strength is 15. If you use double-glow, the total of BOTH must not exceed a total of 15. Use of a higher setting is subject to warning and/or ban, dependent on conduct record. Grateful for everyone's co-operation and compliance.


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General Signature Rules
~~Contributed by Surfr~~

Signature Length
Signatures are limited to a length of 10 lines of normal sized (default) text.
Here is a table showing all of the text sizes and their limit of lines allowed:


Text heights in pixels, kindly provided by Neo Matrix (http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/member.php?u=9076)
Signature limit = 160 pixels
Number of size 1 lines = 13 -> 160/13 = 12.3 pixels (13)
Number of size 2 lines = 10 -> 160/10 = 16 pixels
Number of size 3 lines = 9 -> 160/9 = 17.8 pixels (18)
Number of size 4 lines = 7 -> 160/7 = 22.9 pixels (23)
Number of size 5 lines = 5.5 -> 160/5.5 = 29.1 pixels (30)
Number of size 6 lines = 4 -> 160/4 = 40 pixels
Number of size 7 lines = 2.5 -> 160/2.5 = 64 pixels

Just to point out, this list is for pure text signatures only, not for sigs that involve images.




Here is the length, so that you may check your signature. The easiest way to do this is to take a small piece of paper and mark, on the paper, where both lines are. Then place the paper next to your signature. If your signature fits between the two lines, you're fine. If not - back to the drawing board, creative, yet long winded one.

Tall smileys often take up more than one line as well.

If a Moderator contacts you asking you to change your signature, please do so immediately. You are required to change your signature within 24 hours of receiving the message. Failure to do so will first result in a signature reset, then the entire signature gone for one month, and finally, for the third offence: permanent signature deletion and possibly a visit from unsavory individuals steeped in the lore of the Inquisition and having practical experience with time-tested torture techniques.


Signature Content
Signatures follow the same content guidelines as posts. These rules are often referred to as the "Bumper Sticker Rule." Whereas, if you wouldn't see it on a Bumper Sticker while chasing cars through your neighborhood, it's not allowed in your signature.

Links to sites outside GameWinners.com are not permitted in signatures - at all. Please use the field provided in your profile to create an outside link which is accessible through the 'www' icon at the bottom of all your posts.


Miscellaneous
Glow - Using the glow effect in your signature is permitted. However, its limited to a strength of 15. Double-glow is allowed, but not triple, quadruple, quintuple, etc., glow. Double-glow is cumulative and may not exceed 15, total.

EDIT: The author of this post is in no way responsible for any inappropriate sarcasm where unnecessary. That would be me. ~Mk

[VolantKnave]

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/JustAndrew/MagicalMysterTour2.jpg

I've gotton a tip that one of my past sigs was over the file size limit, but from what I saw, it seemed like it fit it.

this one is around 14,000, and the limit is what, around 25,000, so I'm sure this fits, but then again, my test one appearently didn't, according to another member.

I'm really getting tired of asking, but I've got no other choice...I think you are mixing pixels and Kilobytes.

Use the one FM resized and you'll be fine.

[Neo Matrix]

Signature limit = 160 pixels
Number of size 1 lines = 13 -> 160/13 = 12.3 pixels (13)
Number of size 2 lines = 10 -> 160/10 = 16 pixels
Number of size 3 lines = 9 -> 160/9 = 17.8 pixels (18)
Number of size 4 lines = 7 -> 160/7 = 22.9 pixels (23)
Number of size 5 lines = 5.5 -> 160/5.5 = 29.1 pixels (30)
Number of size 6 lines = 4 -> 160/4 = 40 pixels
Number of size 7 lines = 2.5 -> 160/2.5 = 64 pixels
VK: How about giving me some credit for that info? :P

[VolantKnave]

Ahgg... Sorry. -_-

I've been extremely absent-minded the last week...

[Scott]

Split-a-doodle-do (http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=488755).

[Jason.]

Was that like the first split ever for here?

[CounterBlow]

If you had clicked Scott's "Split a doodle do" it would have brought you to another Split, and so on and so forth. So "no" that was not the first split ever.

[Jason.]

Oh.... How many are there?

[VolantKnave]

There's only one way to find out: See for yourself.

[Jason.]

I could only go to 2 and the third one said no specified thread so I don't really know.

[Neo Matrix]

That means it was before the last purge. If the first post of this thread was in 2003, there must have been a LOT of splits.

[Jason.]

Was MK a mod or an admin or a smod then? I didn't notice 2003 for some reason, I should've noticed!

[Neo Matrix]

Either he was a mod of TG or Kat (who I think was a mod at some point) stuck it. I think it's the latter though.

[VolantKnave]

Kat moderated this places for ages, I believe.
Klown...I don't think so.

[Ford Mustang]

This was Kat's first modding spot, I believe..

Klown, no. He did mod, but.. Demodded. Kat stickied everything that was "important".

[VolantKnave]

He did mod, but.. Demodded.Resign, he did.

[Jason.]

Why did kat get demodded? She's not even a mod anymore! What happened? Is she not a mod in here because she was good a ascii and not images?

[Neo Matrix]

It wasn't anything to do with her skills at making sigs. That's not even a requirement to mod this place.

[CounterBlow]

I believe she was demodded because she was on a LOA, and didn't tell anyone, and she was demodded before she returned.*

*I think so, not 100% sure though...

[XZ]

I believe she was demodded because she was on a LOA, and didn't tell anyone, and she was demodded before she returned.*

*I think so, not 100% sure though...
hmm..what's LOA?
this is interesting...

[CounterBlow]

Leave Of Absence.

[XZ]

Ooh..ok gotcha.

[VolantKnave]

I believe she was demodded because she was on a LOA, and didn't tell anyone, and she was demodded before she returned.*

*I think so, not 100% sure though...
I know exactly why she was demodded, and that's not it.

PM her if you need to know...

[CounterBlow]

I know exactly why she was demodded, and that's not it.

PM her if you need to know...
Yeah, I wasn't sure; hence, "*I think so, not 100% sure though..."

I didn't really need to know, but now I'm curious. Why can't you just say why?

[VolantKnave]

Because I believe that would be considered leaking. :shrug:

[XZ]

Yeah, I wasn't sure; hence, "*I think so, not 100% sure though..."

I didn't really need to know, but now I'm curious. Why can't you just say why?
Beecause...dear Grasshopper,
it would be leaking info.We wouldn't want that to happen to our dear volant now...would we?

[CounterBlow]

Because I believe that would be considered leaking. :shrug:
If Kat was demodded before you were a mod yourself, then someone else would have to had leaked information to you, for it to actually be leaking. But if they hadn't, then it's most likely fine...(?)

[VolantKnave]

I didn't know what really happened until I read threads you can't view.

To be on the safe side, I won't say anything. You've seen what happened to KSD, right?

[Ford Mustang]

I know (most of) what happened... Or what I was told, atleast. But, Volant gave a nice sized hint.

[XZ]

I know (most of) what happened... Or what I was told, atleast. But, Volant gave a nice sized hint.
Oooh....tell tell.
What hint????

[VolantKnave]

This little hint. (Click) (http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=488552)

[Ko'Vash]

before i change my sig, ( i was too big and i got in... well you know the rest) is this picture alright?


is this sig alright can i add more?

[Pontus]

No. Its huge. The pic is too big and you have too much text. Shrink the image about 60 pixels in height and you'll have it small enough for it to be fine.

[Sanorith]

Is this alright? It's a little thing I found while searching for stuff, don't remeber where I found it.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/sanorith/danbooru-p-115054941338306.gif

i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/sanorith/danbooru-p-115054941338306.gif

[VolantKnave]

Yeah, that's perfectly fine, as long as you don't put any text above or below it.

[Sanorith]

Thank you very much.

[Sanorith]

Can anyone make the filesize of these two smaller?

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/sanorith/sanorith2_copy-1.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/sanorith/Sanorith2.jpg

[Sanorith]

Accidently deleted top.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/sanorith/sanorith2_copy.jpg

[SmasherMaster]

This sig should be within the limits, right?

[Kurtis.]

i know this is too big, can someone change it so it fits? (http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/4163/1152842190791wo7.gif) <--link

[Kat]

I'd suggest finding another image, animations end up being too big of a file. That or only use one frame, but I wouldn't know which one you'd want.

As for the earlier discussion about my being demodded, I'll clear it up for you all since there seems to be some confusion and I've already been PMed about it once. It was for account sharing, which for the record posed zero risk to the site or I would have never done it, but the admins did not see it my way.:tease:

[SAMUSTHEONE2455]

How do you make a sig? I've been here for 2 weeks...:bashhead:

[Mojo.]

No, you haven't yet. Your CT still says "New User." Once that says "Registered User" click the Quick Links dropdown menu on the login/out bar at the top of your page. Then Edit Signature. Just put whatever you want in there. remember: 10 lines of regular (size 2) text or 13 lines of size 1 text, use tags for images and make sure the pic is withing the limits (160 HIGH; 500 WIDE; max filesize 25KB).

[AngelicAura]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/thnderstrmalchmst/GWsig.jpg

Since everytime I put this danged picture somewhere, its filesize changes, and I've already got one warning because I went .52 over the KB limit, I don't wanna screw up again.

So, is it too big? Yay or nay?

[Mojo.]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/thnderstrmalchmst/GWsig.jpg

No, it's all under the limits. :^:

[Neo Matrix]

How do you make a sig? I've been here for 2 weeks...:bashhead:Erm... try 8 days.

What Mojo said is right. Always remember to post your sig idea before setting it, because I'm likely to remove it straight away if it's in your sig and over the limit.

[DynoMite]

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4796/vanquishsp8.jpg
Is one line of size [1] text allowed under this image?

[Ford Mustang]

Yep. You've got 23 px left, I do think a size 2 would work too.. Wait for Neo or Volant or Scott to confirm.. Size 1 will definately be fine.

[Scott]

Size 1 or 2 or 3.

That's what it is for 140, anyway (I think, don't hold me to it).

[Neo Matrix]

Yep. You've got 23 px left, I do think a size 2 would work too.. Wait for Neo or Volant or Scott to confirm.. Size 1 will definately be fine.
Number of size 1 lines = 13 -> 160/13 = 12.3 pixels (13)
Number of size 2 lines = 10 -> 160/10 = 16 pixels
Number of size 3 lines = 9 -> 160/9 = 17.8 pixels (18)
Number of size 4 lines = 7 -> 160/7 = 22.9 pixels (23)

I think that size 1 = 12 pixels now. I still need to confirm though...

[DynoMite]

I wish they hadn't made size one bigger than it used to be...

this is size one now

[DynoMite]

K is this okay? vvvv

[CounterBlow]

Yes that's fine.

[Neo Matrix]

I wish they hadn't made size one bigger than it used to be...Bigger than it used to be?

[Madeye]

hiya, I haven't been around for awhile so I wanted to make sure my new sig follows the rules here. does it?

[Scott]

Yeah, it's fine.

[Ants!]

It might look a little better if you center it though :)

[Phoenix]

Alright, a lot of people have been saying my sig contains an outside link, when the actual gamercard has the clickable link, mine just tells you where to get it. I don't see what's wrong with it.

So, is it ok to use?

[VolantKnave]

Rule #1: Don't put a signature in your signature before asking if it's alright.

This image does not just contain an outside link, but it's also well over the filesize limit. You better remove it.


I'm not 100% sure about the rules on outside links on gamercards, but I think the official gamercards (using the [gamercard] tag) are the only ones that are safe to use, along with Xfire profile images. 'Unofficial' cards count as regular images, I believe.

[CounterBlow]

You can use "Unofficial" cards, as long as they are below the filesize limit and do not contain an outside link. The only links you can have in your sig are links to your Xbox account or Xfire account (Or a place within GW)

The reason your's is considered an outside link is because it shows: "XBOX LC.com" Not a link to your OFFICIAL Xbox or Xfire account.

Consider yourself lucky it hasn't been deleted yet. Mine was deleted within 3 minutes of me adding it to my sig. :(

[iTommy]

us my sig ok??

[VolantKnave]

No, it is too long. You have 48 hours to change it.

To push it within the signature rules, you need to remove this text from the signature:

2.Mud night club 3 dub edition: remix
3. need for sspeed hot pursuit 2
NiNtEnDo Ds-

1.Animal crossing wild world
2.NEW supermario bros

READ THE SIGNATURE RULES (http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238841)

[Phoenix]

http://my.livecard.net/24749/SecretVendetta

How about this?

[VolantKnave]

No. Filesize is well over the limit and it's too tall.

READ THE SIGNATURE RULES (http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238841)

:rolleyes:

[Phoenix]

Well I meant for just the link, I couldn't find anything for whatever writing is at the bottom.

[VolantKnave]

It says vexvegas.gfx and is most likely the signature of whoever made it.

[derflaupnoxin]

So, did the forum automatically change my signature because the filesize was over the limit?

Or did a mod change it? If so, my whole signature shouldn't have been erased. It would be very disrespectful and It would have been more mature to just PM me or contact me another way to tell me to change it. The extremely small pictures werent the only thing that was in my sig.

Not everyone will think to look at "The testing grounds" before doing anything, ecpecially when they have been a member for over 6 years.

[Scott]

They may have been small, but the combined filesize exceeded the maximum of 25Kb.

[derflaupnoxin]

Yeah I understand that, but dont you think giving me a notice would be better? I would have gladly changed it to meet the requirements. That way I wouldn'd have to lose the rest of my sig for no reason.

[Scott]

It was only reset... it's not like it's gone forever...

Former Mod of WWF No Mercy, Nintendo 64, Wrestling Games, Harry Potter(unfortunatley), Sports, Soccer, Auto Racing, Thunderdome, Grand Theft Auto Series, WWE Wrestlemania X8, The Testing Grounds.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7663/newwiitagzv7.gif
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/ligerman19/PS21.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1871/gamecubemc6.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h97/konaauzumaki7/n64sig6by.jpgThere you go. Just don't use the images...

[derflaupnoxin]

Yeah I know, but I would have never remembere what I had written before, Thanks

[Neo Matrix]

Unfortunately, I think the rules mention that sigs with images in get no warning. They're insta-nuked.

[derflaupnoxin]

If a Moderator contacts you asking you to change your signature, please do so immediately. You are required to change your signature within 24 hours of receiving the message. Failure to do so will first result in a signature reset

Thats in the rules.

[Neo Matrix]

I bet you haven't seen the revamped rules (http://forums.gamewinners.com/rules/index.php) yet. You have to open the link through you options screen.
In addition to the following rules, we would kindly request that you keep the number of images in your signature to a mininum. Please, no more than 3 images.

You will not receive a PM before your signature is removed if it is in violation of the image rules. Please ensure that it's valid before you use it in the first place.

SIGNATURE WARNINGS FOR THINGS SUCH AS OUTSIDE LINKS AND FLAMES WILL COUNT AGAINST YOU JUST AS A REGULAR WARNING WOULD.

[derflaupnoxin]

Hmm..I can't even find that

[God-Of-The-Real]

Is mine fine? it's exceeding by barely a 3kb is that withing acceptable marge?

[Twilight]

No. An acceptable margin is usually within a few bytes over the limit. 3kb is 3,000 bytes over the limit.

Your signature also contains an Outside Link. Which, I don't know if that specific site is allowed.

[God-Of-The-Real]

No. An acceptable margin is usually within a few bytes over the limit. 3kb is 3,000 bytes over the limit.

Your signature also contains an Outside Link. Which, I don't know if that specific site is allowed.

It's at those moment i wanna kick out of the Internet all the 56k users -.-

[360kid]

hope this works

[CounterBlow]

x 360 Sniper x

To get that ^, put the following in your sig:

x 360 Sniper x

[Cupid.]

I have a question... I have a usernote about my first sig nuke ( i had accidneltly left an experiment of a sig on :bashhead: ) it said bandwidth leeching. What does that mean? i didn't see it in sig rules on first post here. Unless my eyes are deceiving me... :paranoid:

[m4tt]

No bandwidth leeching: This refers to those of you who directly link to an image hosted by a site that is neither owned by you nor is a free hosting source. For instance, linking to a Simpsons image hosted on the FOX website. There are plenty of free hosting websites you can use if you do not own your own server, such as www.imageshack.com and www.photobucket.com.
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[Bowman!]

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb186/matt1990_04/16.jpg

If I were to put that and 1 line under it, would that be okay?

[VolantKnave]

Yep, assuming the text is not very big.

[m4tt]

No, because the filesize is 44,476 bytes (the limit is 25,600) and it has an address outside of GameWinners. The dimensions are fine for text though.

[Bowman!]

Looks like I should have waited for more people to post. How can I get the Filesize thingy down under or at 25k

[Sombra]

I am unable to post this (http://www.esnips.com/doc/5edfcd35-9b2f-47fd-beab-10ef3d20a4ea/Kyuubi_ff_sig) as my sig. As you can see, it plainly conforms to all specifications. Yet, the system still informs me that the file is too large. Are there any restrictions on what site hosts the image file?

[m4tt]

Try http://www.esnips.com/nsdoc/5edfcd35-9b2f-47fd-beab-10ef3d20a4ea. However you should probably get the URL at the bottom removed. It's small and blurred, but I can still tell there's one there.

There aren't any site-by-site restrictions; it either has to be one that provides a hosting service or one you own yourself.

[schwa.]

Question: Is there a program that I can get or use to automatically shrink pictures to the correct length/width for a sig?

[m4tt]

I don't know of any that do it automatically. If you're using something like PhotoShop, GIMP or Paint.NET it's very easy to set the dimensions and adjust the filesize when you save your image, but you have to do it manually.

[Kronoan]

So, I just have a question about Signatures then. If I (as a new member can't use one for 2 weeks from my date of registering, if I make one in this section to test it, after the 2 weeks have passed I should be able to copy & paste my test signature if that's what I'm going to use into the section of my profile where I create my real signatures?

So I just make a thread here with my signature so that a mod can check it & make sure it's OK & it stays here for those 2 weeks & then I'll be able to make one? I only make text signatures anyway, 3 double-spaced lines at the most (usually, maybe sometimes I add a 4th line of text but not always) so I wish I didn't have to wait. I almost never ever use images in my signature, & I'm not someone who creates accounts anywhere just for the heck of it or to spam websites unnecessarily. Is there any chance someone knows & could let me know if anyone normally can maybe be granted an exception if they prove that they aren't like most of the registerees who I'm assuming made this limitation or rule necessary in the first place?

I think I know what I might be told, but still ... I really always get very aggravated and angry about when a few (or sometimes many people) do something dumb or pointless and ruin something for everyone & create a problem that a rule(s) needs to be created to make sure that they can't do what they did before; while making people who aren't like that suffer because of it.

I personally hate that with such a passion that if I could make this world a better place so these measures would never be necessary for as many of the things people have done in the past & currently that create these kinds of situations, then I'd hope that any/all company(ies)/whatever would abolish the rules they'd set up because they'd trust they aren't needed anymore.

[m4tt]

Your thread will remain here as a reference for as long as possible. Unfortunately it isn't possible to make individual exceptions to the rule as that would create a precedence that would be very difficult to deal with.

[Kronoan]

Thanks anyway Matt, that's what I though.